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richbailey86
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May 15th, 2015 at 7:05:36 PM permalink
Lets say you went to the casino once a day.

And you could only place one bet and then leave.

On the craps table what would that one bet be?

one bet. win or lose. place it then leave.
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May 15th, 2015 at 7:24:15 PM permalink
Assuming "pass with odds" counts as multiple bets, I'd bet Don't Pass (or Don't Come if there's a point).
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May 15th, 2015 at 7:42:49 PM permalink
Wouldn't it be easier to just send them a check every month for the vig and save the gas money?
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May 15th, 2015 at 7:51:19 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Wouldn't it be easier to just send them a check every month for the vig and save the gas money?



For arguments sake to counter your reply lets assume no gas involved. We live in the house next to the casino.
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May 16th, 2015 at 12:14:49 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Assuming "pass with odds" counts as multiple bets, I'd bet Don't Pass (or Don't Come if there's a point).


ditto. the odds (or lay in this case) would indeed be a 2nd bet but if your hypothetical would allow it, i would lay the house max or the max that i could afford...tom "home runs are often boring" p
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May 16th, 2015 at 12:36:15 AM permalink
I'd wait until a point is established.

Then I'd hop the 4-3.
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May 16th, 2015 at 12:45:08 AM permalink
Quote: RS

I'd wait until a point is established.

Then I'd hop the 4-3.


6-1* would be better. Fire Bet would be my choice.

*Didn't you read the bias dice threads? ;P
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May 16th, 2015 at 1:17:36 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

6-1* would be better. Fire Bet would be my choice.

*Didn't you read the bias dice threads? ;P


lol (re your astericked comment)
a few places do not allow a fire bet without a line bet but--for arguments sake-- let's say that the one next door to your house does...tom "home runs are often boring" p
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May 16th, 2015 at 10:36:28 AM permalink
Yup, I'm gonna fly to Vegas and make one bet a day!
Here's your sign!
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May 16th, 2015 at 10:44:01 AM permalink
I would wait for a seven, then bet the pass line and try to catch back-to-back sevens.
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May 16th, 2015 at 11:14:50 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Yup, I'm gonna fly to Vegas and make one bet a day!
Here's your sign!



Why would you do that. Thats stupid.
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:51:52 AM permalink
can you explain why you want to make only 1 bet per day? I have seen promotions where you had to make a visit and st least bet per day for 30 days and you received a bonus.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 17th, 2015 at 7:13:27 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

For arguments sake to counter your reply lets assume no gas involved. We live in the house next to the casino.



What a horrible place to live.
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May 17th, 2015 at 8:20:14 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

What a horrible place to live.

That's a bit overboard what's wrong with living next to a casino if you don't have a gambling problem? Especially if you had an advantage.

Back when Palms had the FPWD progressive with mail, drawings and promotions. They have a decent gated apartment complex right behind it. Assuming a guy was retired, I can imagine that would be a perfect situation. Add someone skilled at poker and it's even better.
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May 17th, 2015 at 9:16:13 AM permalink
That may be the best question asked on here. Since every bet is a game against
the casino with a HA , one bet is better than many, unless its HA is higher than
cumulative HA on all your bets working. Say a horn bet against a 6 & 8.

If you were very close to a casino so the cost of the drive was not a problem
I would watch the table a tad to make sure something unusual was not going on, and
i would wait for a line win and a next pass point of 5 or 9 and lay the point.

A win pays me about 71.4% if my lay and there is only a 19% chance on average of
the guy making a second point.


I have not put this on a simulator... but I bet it would do better than most ways of play

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May 17th, 2015 at 10:28:26 AM permalink
Definitely a parlay sports bet. 1 bet = hours of entertainment.
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May 17th, 2015 at 10:29:12 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

I would watch the table a tad to make sure something unusual was not going on,

a few examples would be nice for what IS unusual to you
Quote: dicesitter

i would wait for a line win and a next pass point of 5 or 9 and lay the point.
A win pays me about 71.4% if my lay and there is only a 19% chance on average of
the guy making a second point.

that 19% is B4 (s)he has made the first point, of course

once the point is made AND you lay the 5 or 9 (YES!)

you now have a 40% chance to lose that Lay bet (4/10)

unless you are me, and how could you B,
where i only have abouts a 33% chance to lose that Lay 5 or 9 bet
i am really so lucky with my bet selection timing and shooter point qualifier method!

Quote: dicesitter

I have not put this on a simulator... but I bet it would do better than most ways of play

dicesetter

you bet HOW MUCH?
no need to simulate i say, but simulation IS fun
how about simple math and hit the craps table (1+1=2)

BTW,
do not be like the single Mom from Utah (was on April 2, 2015)
she was not supposed to be in a casino but still managed to
smash Grandma Pats world craps hand record of 154 rolls
it (the worlds record) looks like it now stands at 163 rolls!
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:01:41 PM permalink
I would place a dont pass...

Or I would place a bet that the valet would still take 10 minutes to bring the car out...
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:18:21 PM permalink
Sally,
This is the second time I have seen mention of a 163 roll record but can't find it through google. Do you have a link to the story, I really want to read it but keep coming up empty. I might be searching wrong. Thank you.
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:54:30 PM permalink
Thanks

I just wanted to Guage what peoples favorite bets to make was on craps

If you could only place 1 bet it would be a bet someone was confident in.

So was just curious

Im learning the ins and outs

Can someone explain to me why after a point is made placing the 5 and 9 is a good idea?

Wouldnt placing the 6 and 8 be a better idea
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May 17th, 2015 at 7:04:05 PM permalink
Sally,
When I go to the Fox 411 connect site, the article next to the picture of George Harrison states the following:

A guitar George Harrison played at a time when Beatlemania was taking flight has sold for nearly half a million dollars at a New York auction.
Music
Harrison guitar brings in big bucks

George Harrison guitar sells for nearly a quarter of a million dollars, and speaks nothing of any 163 rolls in one hand of craps. Can anyone point me in the direction of an article that discusses a Utah woman setting a new record at Craps? Has anyone seen record of this roll and where and when it occurred?
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May 17th, 2015 at 8:12:50 PM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

Lets say you went to the casino once a day.

And you could only place one bet and then leave.

On the craps table what would that one bet be?

one bet. win or lose. place it then leave.



One bet? I'd bet the Don'ts.
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May 18th, 2015 at 6:53:38 AM permalink
Rich


When your looking at the one bet deal, there are a lot of bets one could make such as
buy a 4 or ten with vig paid on win.... great bet. smaller HA than laying the 5 or 9
which is 3.23 % or laying the 6 or 8 which has a ha of 4%.

The five and nine works for me because of the combination of events....

19% chance a shooter gets two points in a row..... that means 81% chance he
wont...and I get paid 71.4 of my lay.... good spread for me

I don't like laying the 4 or 10 because for every loss I almost have to win two times
to break even, and I wont lay the 6 or 8.

The reason I would not play the donts......in general is because with the don't pass or don't come
I don't know where the money will be placed before I bet.... when I wait and select the 5 or 9
I am putting it when and where I think I have the best chance to win.

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May 18th, 2015 at 7:16:07 AM permalink
Quote: mason2386

Sally,
When I go to the Fox 411 connect site, the article next to the picture of George Harrison states the following:<snip>

George Harrison guitar sells for nearly a quarter of a million dollars,
and speaks nothing of any 163 rolls in one hand of craps.

George passed away in 2001 and i think if he did make a comment, he would talk about his guitar

Quote: mason2386

Can anyone point me in the direction of an article that discusses a Utah woman setting a new record at Craps? Has anyone seen record of this roll and where and when it occurred?

i also tried to find the article again
but no such luck

the page was loading very slowly on my laptop (not unusual for dsl)
that is why i snipped a photo of it
after the page finally loaded, i could not find that article.
i did have 2 tabs open in google chrome so MAYbe one got crossed with the other

that headline for me does not show up when i look for it
i would like to read it also

MAYbe Alan Mendelson wants to do some investigative work on this, he may know people in Utah and Northern Nevada too
this has a fishy smell like like the Captains 148 roll hand record (he was in his 80s)
where no info can also be found on that hand except from a few biased reports from a name that needs to remain unnamed

and my husband and his boss claimed to have been at that table with that woman
that is where i first heard of this super Mom craps hand
still trying to get details of this event
really weird not to want any fame or the casino not to report what took place.

this comes up in a google search
"The Captain is a rarity. I am not. As a writer, a teacher and a speaker, as a former actor, I
crave the public performance. I want a readership, an audience. I like the spotlight on me."

no, no fish for me now, thanks
Sally

added =======================
I found another article, well headline i guess
it did not click through to a story (huh???)
5pm Monday May 18


so something is going on

that was clever
George Harrison and something 2
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May 18th, 2015 at 7:16:34 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter




The five and nine works for me because of the combination of events....

19% chance a shooter gets two points in a row..... that means 81% chance he
wont...and I get paid 71.4 of my lay.... good spread for me



Are you sure that "spread" relationship is valid? I had always been told that one roll of the dice was independent of the next one(or past one)?
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May 18th, 2015 at 7:20:42 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

The reason I would not play the donts......in general is because with the don't pass or don't come
I don't know where the money will be placed before I bet.... when I wait and select the 5 or 9
I am putting it when and where I think I have the best chance to win.

dicersetter

a dont player does know where the money will be placed before the bet is made

it either loses on a 7 or 11

wins on a 2 or 3
pushes on a 12

and if the next roll is a 4,5,6,8,9 or 10

the choice is now up the player if that number is one that is wanted to bet against
"no action" is an option for any dont player
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May 18th, 2015 at 8:04:53 AM permalink
Keep dreaming, one bet a day for a hooked gambling junkie trying not to work and make an honest real living. Yeah right!

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May 18th, 2015 at 8:06:40 AM permalink
mustangsally

Yup that's correct, I lose on 11 and I lose on 7 and then if the number is a 6 ,8,4,10 I have to say no
action and expose my bet again to the 7 and 11...

That may make sense to you, but not to me, I will stick with the one bet I suggested (if I was to
only make one bet a day).

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May 18th, 2015 at 2:46:08 PM permalink
Quote: countblackjack

Keep dreaming, one bet a day for a hooked gambling junkie trying not to work and make an honest real living. Yeah right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgD8rkIxj7o



huh?
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May 19th, 2015 at 8:37:58 PM permalink
Mustangsally



If I place a don't pass I have no idea what the don't pass number will be... could be anything... if I place a don't come I could lose on the
7 and 11.... as you know.... I don't want it on the 6 or 8 or 4 or 10... so there are six things that can happen I don't
want..... if I wait to place it on the 5 or 9 after the first point is made , lets say it is the 9...... the only possibility to hurt me is a nine.
why in the world do I want to expose my money to 6 things I don't want as compared to only 1...

In addition it has been you for many months that has been bragging on here that you are the only person you know that is a life time winner
and you did by selecting the point where you placed a bet against the point....

Now maybe you are no longer a life time winner and had a change of "heart" or you just forgot what you have been saying.


Again.... I don't care how you bet or anyone else..... the question was if you were going to make one bet a day what would it
be..... and that is mine.... if some one else has a different bet.,.. great.... it is a hypothetical question to begin with and no one
has to do it.. you don't agree.... pic your own bet.


Betterr yet go to your table and take $1000 dollars and play the don't pass straight up with $100 bet no odds and take
the same $1000 and wait until you make a point and if your next point is 5 or 9 place against
it for $100 and I bet I will
win.

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