Thread Rating:

Dicenor33
Dicenor33
Joined: Aug 28, 2013
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 624
July 1st, 2015 at 4:31:08 AM permalink
Dice control only works in theory, there are too many limitations.
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
  • Threads: 152
  • Posts: 20132
July 1st, 2015 at 5:44:26 AM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Dice control only works in theory, there are too many limitations.

Oh boy, please don't use the word contro.l Dicesitter will lecture us again. It's influence.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
dicesitter
dicesitter
Joined: Jan 17, 2013
  • Threads: 32
  • Posts: 1157
July 1st, 2015 at 6:58:35 AM permalink
Well


Why don't we have a start and finish to this.

1......Have you seen the videos of dice finish I posted on you tube......????

dicesetter
dicesitter
dicesitter
Joined: Jan 17, 2013
  • Threads: 32
  • Posts: 1157
July 1st, 2015 at 8:25:31 AM permalink
Axelwolf


I understand your not trying to dog me.... I am retired so talking about craps is fun for me... even with you.

You need to explain something to me..... it is rather simple...

Why in the world cant you get it through your skull that dice influence can vary from day to day
given the fact that the dice have to be thrown by people, and like any other physical activity, the people vary
from day to day.

You assume that any change in any other activity can be accepted,, they had an off day, they were sick etc..
but when it comes to craps.... there is no off day, it is all variance... that makes no sense at all.

You allow that the dice can be different, you allow that the tables can be different, you allow that tables can be longer
or shorter, but you don't allow that the guy throwing them from day to day can be different.... it blows my mind that
a guy as intelligent as you seem to be cant understand the very basic human concept of variance on a daily basis inherent in
the thrower..... there are days my shot is dead on and I get good results, there are days like Friday night where I could
not for the life of me get my dice to react the way I wanted them to in germs of bounce.. that is not variance it is me, I
was not good enough.

Variance I accept and that would be if my shot was constant, some times I win and some times I lose, but any change would be
due to the normal variance of the game...your lucky or not. If my shot was always the same and I win or lose depending on
luck... well I am on your side 100% but that's not what I see in my case.

I expect that is the same with others.

dicesetter
MrV
MrV
Joined: Feb 13, 2010
  • Threads: 335
  • Posts: 7446
July 1st, 2015 at 9:08:34 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

...there are days my shot is dead on and I get good results...



Does that mean you now claim that DI actually, demonstrably works?

Or is it just confirmation bias?

The road to riches can be bumpy.

"What, me worry?"
MathExtremist
MathExtremist
Joined: Aug 31, 2010
  • Threads: 88
  • Posts: 6526
July 1st, 2015 at 9:40:21 AM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

it blows my mind that
a guy as intelligent as you seem to be cant understand the very basic human concept of variance on a daily basis inherent in
the thrower..... there are days my shot is dead on and I get good results, there are days like Friday night where I could
not for the life of me get my dice to react the way I wanted them to in germs of bounce..


Everyone understands this. What I don't understand is how you measure "dead on" and "get good results" -- and that's because you're not actually measuring them.

The scant results I've seen you discuss have been related to dice totals. You post something like "5, 8, 3, 8, 6, 6, 9, 5" and say "see, I'm influencing the dice."

That's bunk. If you have any skill at all, of course it will vary. Just like a baseball pitcher's skill will vary from one game to the next. But a baseball pitcher's performance can be quantified. K/9, BABIP, etc.

What is your percentage of "successfully influenced" dice throws?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
mustangsally
mustangsally
Joined: Mar 29, 2011
  • Threads: 25
  • Posts: 2463
July 1st, 2015 at 10:27:31 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

That's bunk.

wow!
you can not be talking about a type of bed (or you could be)

i say
do
never
let an over 50 type get under your skin

laugh it off and have fun with it
hehe

i B a little shy here...

where did you learn that word?
B U N K

Grateful Dead
maybe (they are in the news here in CA)
I Heart Vi Hart
MrV
MrV
Joined: Feb 13, 2010
  • Threads: 335
  • Posts: 7446
July 1st, 2015 at 10:34:21 AM permalink
Ah, the Dead.

R.I.P., Jerry.

The Dead are reconstitued and currently performing; five concerts or so.

"Not all who wander are lost."

"What, me worry?"
nickolay411
nickolay411
Joined: Sep 7, 2011
  • Threads: 12
  • Posts: 279
July 1st, 2015 at 10:42:46 AM permalink
I missed the video you guys are talking about. Can someone please repost it?
dicesitter
dicesitter
Joined: Jan 17, 2013
  • Threads: 32
  • Posts: 1157
July 1st, 2015 at 11:17:09 AM permalink
Mathextremist


Thank you,

Some one finally admitted that what ever influence a person has can vary....that
is a good start.

dicesetter

  • Jump to: