Table Minimums for Craps

The table provided for craps is valuable for showing the multiple that can be bet after the point has been established and/or as the come line comes into play, but what is missing here is what the table minimums are. You give that when you can for blackjack, but that information, I think, is even more important when deciding on where to play craps. Can you add that column to your craps information?

This is a difficult call because the minimums change. Midweek at 3 am, and Saturday night at 10 pm are going to be very different.

Quote: Ayecarumba

This is a difficult call because the minimums change. Midweek at 3 am, and Saturday night at 10 pm are going to be very different.

I've actually had the minimum raised in the middle of playing.
Ballys Vegas
They wouldn't grandfather me in either :-(

Quote: terapined

I've actually had the minimum raised in the middle of playing.
Ballys Vegas
They wouldn't grandfather me in either :-(

Ouch. That is not cool.

If someone could maintain it accurately, I would like to know the minimum(s) offered, and when they are most likely to be found. For example, if I knew when the minimum might go below $15 at Mandalay Bay, I would only visit at that time.

It could be really hard to do. I walk the strip a lot when I visit and find it surprisingly random. I am always surprised to see a couple of $10 tables at the Bellagio in the evening on a Friday night. Never seen anything less than a $15 table at the Aria. Jimmy Buffet's has a $5 right in a doorway to the street; also a similar setup at O'Shea's. Trying to make sense of it could be a headache. Maybe an APP updated constantly by forum members? Mostly from what I read here in the weeks before my visits tends to get me in the right spot for my first session at the tables. The next day i sightsee and scope new places to do an hour or two as i walk around. There is Casino Royalle for cheap, but what a zoo!

As far as grandfathering, I never had a problem. Usually in at $10 or $15 and end up playing with others at $25 by 10pm. Last few trips at Treasure Island it went up to 25 then down again and hour or so later; i think around 2-3 am. Only once at the Bellagio did I learn my lesson. Was at a $15 table with my sister and we were doing ok for a bit. I needed a bathroom break and grabbed my stack of reds and greens and ran off. When I came back to my spot (rt of stick, sister on my left) and made a passline bet I got told by dealer: "twentyfive!". "What?" "It's a $25 minimum now. You shouda told someone you were leaving". Sheepishly I continued at 25 but gave it up quickly. My sister was still on at 15 but didn't roll so well. Guy at the end lost ten grand on her rolls. He was a regular apparently. He looked a lot like Tom Arnold.

I've had the limit raised on me many times, but I was never offered Grandfathering ...

East Coast casinos.

Quote: Ayecarumba

If someone could maintain it accurately, I would like to know the minimum(s) offered, and when they are most likely to be found. For example, if I knew when the minimum might go below $15 at Mandalay Bay, I would only visit at that time.

I think its rather whimsical, they schedule crews but it takes time to open up a table, triple count the bank, examine and note numbers of the dice, etc. Sometimes tables are empty and sometimes full and all depends on how the night went. Sometimes the crew and players are still there. Sometimes a table will be lowered while I'm shooting and I hate it when the dealer announces the electronic sign has changed while I'm still rolling.

Quote: odiousgambit

I've had the limit raised on me many times, but I was never offered Grandfathering ...

East Coast casinos.

They will never offer grandfathering.
If you ask for it, you might be accommodated.

Quote: terapined

They will never offer grandfathering.
If you ask for it, you might be accommodated.

I've asked before and been scoffed at!

As was stated before, I agree that it's not pragmatic to post Table Minimums for Craps because they are ever-changing. I clearly can't speak for every casino on Earth, but it seems to me that most houses have a Blackjack minimum and always seem to have at least one table going at same, with some Strip casinos being an occasional exception.

I could be a bit off-base here, but it just seems like the limits fluctuate more with Craps, which I think is probably a function of having fewer (only one or two for most casinos) tables going at any given time. Another, "For instance," I can think of is the $3.00 Craps game that is offered at El Cortez...I've never seen such a table and I've been there at all times of the day (off and on, obviously) and there during what is termed, "Dead Week." Maybe it is something you have to ask for, I don't know, because I didn't ask. I didn't mind the $5 minimum because I am used to it (nearly everywhere I've ever been) and the El Cortez is my favorite place to have ever shot dice.

At the casino I work at, the limits are very consistent. $5 on Sunday-Thursday and Friday up until 5PM or so, $10 on Friday night into Saturday. Problem is that on weekends we try to run two games at $10 (we only have one open the rest of the week), and a lot of people seem to find it too expensive which means both tables stay dead much of the night. It seems to me that dropping one table to $5 on weekends, keeping the $10 table for "overflow," might work better...more players playing less is better than no players at all, right? But I'm just a work-a-day peon so what do I know.

(And yes, I'm still alive, and yes, I'm back in the casino business again. Won't say which one I'm at, but certain members of this forum will probably be able to figure it out pretty easily...LOL)

Quote: OneAngryDwarf

At the casino I work at, the limits are very consistent. $5 on Sunday-Thursday and Friday up until 5PM or so, $10 on Friday night into Saturday. Problem is that on weekends we try to run two games at $10 (we only have one open the rest of the week), and a lot of people seem to find it too expensive which means both tables stay dead much of the night. It seems to me that dropping one table to $5 on weekends, keeping the $10 table for "overflow," might work better...more players playing less is better than no players at all, right? But I'm just a work-a-day peon so what do I know.

(And yes, I'm still alive, and yes, I'm back in the casino business again. Won't say which one I'm at, but certain members of this forum will probably be able to figure it out pretty easily...LOL)

Let me guess . . . is there one particular forum member you will definitely NOT be seeing at your place of employment? :)

Quote: OneAngryDwarf

(And yes, I'm still alive, and yes, I'm back in the casino business again. Won't say which one I'm at, but certain members of this forum will probably be able to figure it out pretty easily...LOL)

I don't keep up with any of these feuds or personality disputes on the forum....
so all can say is welcome back, glad you have a job, glad its in an exciting and festive industry.... now dummy up and deal.

Work a day peons tend to know to be flexible on table minimums, Suits and MBAs prefer schedules and inflexible rules. Benny Binion was the most flexible man Vegas has ever seen. Some say he was rich enough he could afford to be flexible but I think it is more accurate to say that the reason he was so rich was that he was so very flexible.


NOTE: I recall that Casino Royale had TWO odds limits on ONE Table because they had TWO minimum bets running on the same table at the same time, but had signage for only one of those limits. That may be some of the confusion at the invisible three dollar craps games.

Quote: FleaStiff

I don't keep up with any of these feuds or personality disputes on the forum....
so all can say is welcome back, glad you have a job, glad its in an exciting and festive industry.... now dummy up and deal.

Haha thanks. No dispute happened, just lost interest and stopped posting for a while.

Quote: FleaStiff

Benny Binion was the most flexible man Vegas has ever seen.

He should've gotten a gig with Cirque du Soleil then. <ba-dum-ching>

Quote: OneAngryDwarf

He should've gotten a gig with Cirque du Soleil then. <ba-dum-ching>

Yeah, the guy who invented that cirque du Soleil stuff was supposedly flat broke at the time and he built it up to make millions. He used to play poker in Molly Bloom's games where pots of several million dollars were common.

Quote: FleaStiff

Work a day peons tend to know to be flexible on table minimums, Suits and MBAs prefer schedules and inflexible rules. Benny Binion was the most flexible man Vegas has ever seen. Some say he was rich enough he could afford to be flexible but I think it is more accurate to say that the reason he was so rich was that he was so very flexible.

I agree with that 100%. I could be renting rooms here for $100+ all day long, but if it's 2:00a.m. and a reasonably calm and clean (non-local) comes in here looking for a room with $50 to his name and I only have three rooms left...I'm renting it for $50 because it's 2:00a.m. and I'm not going to see anyone else that night.

I know this is belated (I just returned to the site after a long absence), but I've seen $3 minimums at the El Cortez as recently as December 2016. I come to town mid-week and during the day the minimum at the craps table was $3. But you're right, $5 is no big deal and the El Cortez, with its 10X odds, is a great place for red chip players to dream big.