Finally participated in a big roll!

Here's the setup:

Mrs and I went up to Mohegan Pocono for dinner Tuesday, Rustic Kitchen with the coupons like I mentioned in another thread. She was feeling cooped up because of her job, and needed to play. I wasn't all that keen on it myself, but I cashed $300 out of the ATM and sat down at 3 Card (yes I know this is the craps forum) because the bonus meter was climbing toward $10k and the table minimum was $5.

A couple hours later, I cashed out one black chip: down $200. On my way over to the cashier, I passed the craps table, and there was one guy there. And he was tossing the dice like a machine; as soon as they were scooped in front of him, he picked them up and threw them. And he was holding a big stack of blacks and greens and purples.

So I figured why not, I haven't played craps in a while. I waited until the point was made, turned my black into reds, bet $10 on pass, and he immediately threw a 3.

And then for the next 15 minutes, he did not throw a 7, except on the come out roll. It didn't matter what the point was, he threw all around the point and the 7, then after half a dozen numbers he hit the point. No dice setting, no foofalah, just scoop and throw. The entire time I was playing, he did not 7 out. Point 9? No problem. 8? Hard or easy, whichever you want! 10, 4, 5, whatever, he hit them all. Five, six rolls around the point and then BAM, 10!

I got back to even playing just pass and odds, actually up $27. I tipped the dealer $10 (he was helping me remember the multiples, like I said I haven't played in a while) and cashed out, happy to have not lost for the evening.

For you guys who play all the time, a $200 win isn't that big a deal I suppose, and it isn't. But I've never been at a table where that happened, and it felt amazing. It was like there was a force field around the number 7. Several times I wasn't paying attention, I was counting my chips (having already decided to stop if I got even) and I looked up and my bet was getting paid; the guy was rolling so fast there was no time to do anything, a couple other players came up to the table buying in or making bets and the shooter would just scoop and throw, no waiting around. Bets and chips were flying through the air at the same time as the dice, players throwing chips and calling "Six!" (it hit 3 times before the point was made) "Hard 8!" (it hit) and the shooting machine just in. the. groove.

After I cashed the chips, I found Mrs Mosca at a Vegas Hits slot, and she was up a couple hundred. I sat down at the Vegas Hits machine next to her, and with the extra $17 I was ahead, got a couple Bonus Wheels, got some room to play, and an hour later cashed out up $100. Mrs cashed out $300, but she'd lost $300 earlier, so she was even.

A good night.

Sweetness

If the shooter had a stack of "blacks, greens and purples": how much money did you observe him to make on his roll while you were there?

A barn yard estimate would be fine.

Also, was he betting PL / odds only, or something more aggressive?

Takes quite the discipline to leave in the middle of a shooter like that when you finally crept back up above even! I don't know if I could/would have done the same =p. So you made $200 in 15 minutes just playing pass w/ odds? Imagine come bets w/ odds or place bets across the board! Even so, nice win!

Quote: MrV

If the shooter had a stack of "blacks, greens and purples": how much money did you observe him to make on his roll while you were there?

A barn yard estimate would be fine.

Also, was he betting PL / odds only, or something more aggressive?

I'd be lying if I said I was paying attention. He was holding the chips in his left hand, about a 3 1/2" stack, and rolling with his right hand, throwing backhand to the right. I recall him playing hard 8 on a roll. I don't remember if the hard 8 hit. Otherwise I could barely pay attention to my own action; like I said, I'm not much of a craps player.

I bought in figuring to lose the $100, and vowing to walk if I broke even. I've broken that vow a number of times only to lose out, so it was easy to walk this time. I was betting $10 pass and $30 odds. There were maybe 3 times, including the first roll, where the shooter rolled a 2/3/12 on the comeout roll.

Quote: Mosca

and it felt amazing..

Always concen when I hear that.

Quote: AxelWolf

Always concern when I hear that.

Hehe. If there was a concern it would have manifested itself long ago. It wasn't visceral, like a base-of-the-brain thing. It was wonderment. "So THIS is what it's like." But I have no illusions, I've been in too many point 7-out/point 7-out/point 7-out games to know otherwise.

Quote: Mosca

Hehe. If there was a concern it would have manifested itself long ago. It wasn't visceral, like a base-of-the-brain thing. It was wonderment. "So THIS is what it's like." But I have no illusions, I've been in too many point 7-out/point 7-out/point 7-out games to know otherwise.

Just busting your balls. From your posts you seem like a level headed guy.

Fire Bet: No
Bonus Craps (All Tall/Small): No
3-4-5X Odds: Meh
No Hop Bets: LOL
Vig on Losing Buy Bets: Yuck
Alcohol: Comped for Elite Cards Only

Why even bother playing craps at Pocono Downs if there's nothing exciting offered to the player?

Quote: AxelWolf

Just busting your balls. From your posts you seem like a level headed guy.

Sorta thought so. I'm like an inoffensive ploppy. Just a guy who likes to play, and doesn't like to think too hard about it, but won't be a fool about it either.

Some comments:

The old craps boat out of Port of Palm Beach used to have this guy who bought in for a huge sum and stood there betting table minimum the entire voyage. The crew did not like him at all.

The dice always move fast on the Gambling Day Boats.... No gambling at all until in international waters, no wake speed restrictions or marine sanctuary restrictions often mean an exaggerated time in territorial waters. They have no choice but to keep those dice flying ... and I mean flying. And the crew knows it. You can argue but you can't hold up the dice. And they don't allow incantations to the gods of gambling or any sort of futzing around. You don't caress the dice, you pick them up and you throw them.

So I would say that dice games, as long as there are any players, do move fast on the day boats. FAST! It can be an adventure for neophytes or men who think they remember how to play the game from their younger years, but no matter what.. the dice move fast.

It can be difficult to keep up, but you learn not to hawk the dice, you learn to listen for the Stick's call of the dice because your eyes are on your bets and your end of the table. You make your bets fast because there is no other option. You decide what you want to do and you do it pretty darn quick. You don't fool around and for the most part neither do the other players. You learn to tune out numbers uttered by other players you just watch your bets and make sure your hands are out of the way because those dice will be in motion real soon now.

That is probably what helps me stay away from Center Bets. No time. I follow basic strategy, a few place bets. Press things from time to time and just go with the flow realizing that the flow will be fast. Win or lose... it will be fast!

Quote: Mosca

I'd be lying if I said I was paying attention. He was holding the chips in his left hand, about a 3 1/2" stack, and rolling with his right hand, throwing backhand to the right. I recall him playing hard 8 on a roll. I don't remember if the hard 8 hit. Otherwise I could barely pay attention to my own action; like I said, I'm not much of a craps player.

I bought in figuring to lose the $100, and vowing to walk if I broke even. I've broken that vow a number of times only to lose out, so it was easy to walk this time. I was betting $10 pass and $30 odds. There were maybe 3 times, including the first roll, where the shooter rolled a 2/3/12 on the comeout roll.

Congrats on having the right attitude which made it even sweeter for you! I have had that sort of experience happen to me several times (just lucky I guess), and it always seems surrealistic to me. I think anyone who knows me would consider me a hard-headed materialist who believes in randomness, so when it happens it seems even better because the "magic" (for want of a better term) gives me such cognitive dissonance because it sure seems like some force causes it, doesn't it?

The last time that happened to me involved the very last time I played craps, at Wynn (I love their tables), this July, on a Monday, believe it or not. My new friend next to me, the shooter, made 12 passes. I took full advantage of it and made so much money that, as some of you might recall, now I have tax considerations and now also thoroughly feel acquainted with money-laundering regulations (disgusting, what our country has come to, but I digress).

However, that said, it doesn't really matter how much you have at the end. All that really matters (to my way of thinking): what you started with and what multiple of that (if any) you wound up with. Looked at that way: you more than tripled your buy-in. And I consider that *always* a good thing. :) Hell, I consider it a good thing if I break even at craps. :)

I hope you savored every minute of it. Such things don't happen that often, but when they do, I always say to myself, "savor this."

Oh, and I shoot exactly like you describe that shooter who made you triple your buy-in. I just scoop up the dice and throw them like a machine (unless I see a player or a dealer with hands in the table). I know I should really pretend superstition, set the dice, etc., to slow thing down, but I just don't care. And no, I have no special talent as a shooter, in case anyone wonders. When people ask me "What kind of shooter are you?" I reply, "Statistically average." No one has gotten the joke yet.

Anyway, Fleastiff, my baby. And look out for the little baby Hortas.

>>>>Anyway, Fleastiff, my baby.
Huh?

>>>> And look out for the little baby Hortas.
Huh? Google said Hortas is Galician for Gardens.
It don't make no sense.

The Horta reference I get... I think Concinnity has you and me mixed up a little bit.

Quote: Mosca

The Horta reference I get... I think Concinnity has you and me mixed up a little bit.

Oh, okay. Fleastiff eases his finger off the trigger.

hey


Good job, a $200 win is a GREAT win, most people would say hey that is not enough and stay until
they were $200 in the hole.


Nice job

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