Can someone help me put together a Wincraps File?
January 20th, 2014 at 1:32:28 PM
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Maybe you can make a couple Wincraps "Genius" files for me for something new I'm working on.
Wincraps "Genius1maxodds"
3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
On come out
$5.00 Fire bet.
$100 Don't Pass Line (NO ODDS)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
After point is established:
Place $10/4, $15/5, $18/6, $18/8, $15/9, $10/10 (Leaving out the established point number)
$5.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $2000 then I double up on come bet to $10.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $3000 then I up on come bet to $15.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $4000 then I up on come bet to $20.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $5000 then I up on come bet to $25.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When point is made:
"Odds working on come out"
$100 Don't Pass Line (No odds ever)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
$25.00 "Doctor" seven
When 7 out repeat the process with appropriate Bankroll/Come w/max odds.
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Wincraps "Genius2parlay" file
3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
On come out
$5.00 Fire bet.
$25 Don't Pass Line (NO ODDS)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
After point/new point is established:
Place $5/4, $5/5, $6/6, $6/8, $5/9, $5/10 ($32 across including the point)
Parley each number up to table max after every win.
When point is made:
Take down all bets to table minimum ($32 across)
When 7 out start over.
I found this very profitable even though place bets don't pay full odds in comparison to come bets w/max odds.
I was able to parley the 6 to table max before seven out.
Any help in creating these files will be greatly appreciated.
Wincraps "Genius1maxodds"
3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
On come out
$5.00 Fire bet.
$100 Don't Pass Line (NO ODDS)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
After point is established:
Place $10/4, $15/5, $18/6, $18/8, $15/9, $10/10 (Leaving out the established point number)
$5.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $2000 then I double up on come bet to $10.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $3000 then I up on come bet to $15.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $4000 then I up on come bet to $20.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When Bankroll reaches $5000 then I up on come bet to $25.00 Come w/max odds on each number.
When point is made:
"Odds working on come out"
$100 Don't Pass Line (No odds ever)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
$25.00 "Doctor" seven
When 7 out repeat the process with appropriate Bankroll/Come w/max odds.
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Wincraps "Genius2parlay" file
3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
On come out
$5.00 Fire bet.
$25 Don't Pass Line (NO ODDS)
$5.00 "Yo" eleven
After point/new point is established:
Place $5/4, $5/5, $6/6, $6/8, $5/9, $5/10 ($32 across including the point)
Parley each number up to table max after every win.
When point is made:
Take down all bets to table minimum ($32 across)
When 7 out start over.
I found this very profitable even though place bets don't pay full odds in comparison to come bets w/max odds.
I was able to parley the 6 to table max before seven out.
Any help in creating these files will be greatly appreciated.
8 more years till retirement.
January 20th, 2014 at 2:13:00 PM
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what is the point of your simulations?Quote: CrapsGeniousAny help in creating these files will be greatly appreciated.
I see you left out when to stop the simulation.
win how much or lose how much.
"Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results."
how much negative?
lose all the money in the universe is useless and you would have one sim (maybe the very first one)
stuck in a losing session never to get ahead.
what would be learned from that?
You have at least a 50% chance of never doubling your bankroll.
But the probability of eventually losing all your bankroll (a finite one) is 100%
That is what playing against a house edge does to any finite bankroll, keeps it going down and down and down.
Some call it a drift in a random walk and against a house edge it is a negative one.
sometimes it is a quick sprint down.
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 20th, 2014 at 2:55:01 PM
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Quote: 7crapswhat is the point of your simulations?
To better my regular playing sessions utilizing a different approach to craps betting.
Quote:I see you left out when to stop the simulation.
Stop after 150 rolls (More realistic would be and average roll per shooter 35 rolls per session)
Running 1000+ roll simulations will be pointless because anything you try in craps winds up in the negative for the long run. we all know this.
Quote:win how much or lose how much.
Win goal of 10K or lose upto 80% of complete bankroll on the first file.
Win goal of 5k or lose complete bankroll of 1k on the second file.
Quote:"Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results."
how much negative?
Too see if can make up if went down to -2k
8 more years till retirement.
January 20th, 2014 at 5:24:11 PM
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please excuse my dumb question as I don't play craps much but what is meant by 3/4/5x odds. When I play we are allowed 10x odds but I never see it written like that at the tables.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
January 20th, 2014 at 5:38:03 PM
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You can only bet odds up to 3x your passline bet on 4 & 10, 4x odds on 5 & 9, and 5x odds on 6 & 8. Most places on the strip are like this.
January 20th, 2014 at 5:46:43 PM
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Quote: BeardgoatYou can only bet odds up to 3x your passline bet on 4 & 10, 4x odds on 5 & 9, and 5x odds on 6 & 8. Most places on the strip are like this.
Just for interest sake, I see that three Station properties have now gone 10x odds across the board. (Green Valley, Sunset Station and Boulder Station). I have not checked the others yet, only these spots.
Competition is a b*$#h!!!
“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill
January 20th, 2014 at 5:53:57 PM
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Casino Royale on the strip has 20x odds. And usually only a $3 minimum table.
January 20th, 2014 at 6:23:44 PM
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Quote: BeardgoatYou can only bet odds up to 3x your passline bet on 4 & 10, 4x odds on 5 & 9, and 5x odds on 6 & 8. Most places on the strip are like this.
Thank you, that is what I thought but wasn't sure.
Sorry OP for the derail.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
January 20th, 2014 at 6:26:12 PM
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Quote: TomspurJust for interest sake, I see that three Station properties have now gone 10x odds across the board. (Green Valley, Sunset Station and Boulder Station). I have not checked the others yet, only these spots.
Competition is a b*$#h!!!
Red rock has 10x odds.
January 20th, 2014 at 6:37:50 PM
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Yeah. I remember when Green Valley Ranch switched to 10x odds. I was working in the complex there and would walk to the casino to play craps during lunch.Quote: rudeboyoiRed rock has 10x odds.
Man, I'm really glad I'm not living in Vegas anymore ;0
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
January 20th, 2014 at 6:54:06 PM
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actually, 1000 rolls is not much; a lousy betting system could be ahead for that many rolls, in some trials. 150 rolls, forget it.
I'd like to help you write the auto-bet file, but I'm not too good at it. Glad to see you got Wincraps.
I'd like to help you write the auto-bet file, but I'm not too good at it. Glad to see you got Wincraps.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 20th, 2014 at 8:51:43 PM
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just using your first 2 betting systems and re-setting after a 7outQuote: CrapsGeniousMaybe you can make a couple Wincraps "Genius" files for me for something new I'm working on.
Any help in creating these files will be greatly appreciated.
as you mentioned in your first post.
See if you can adjust these to your second post.
They are for WinCraps Pro only
I found an old .bet file that needed just a few items added.
Your first method (Genius1maxodds)
does not say what to do with place bets after a win, so you should be able to do whatever.
"After point is established:
Place $10/4, $15/5, $18/6, $18/8, $15/9, $10/10 (Leaving out the established point number)
$5.00 Come w/max odds on each number."
'===="Genius1maxodds" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Same Bet/Take Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = False : 'to remove place bets - down with odds, set = True
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 2000
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000 And Bankroll < 3000
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 3000 And Bankroll < 4000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 4000 And Bankroll < 5000
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 5000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Same Bet/Take Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = False : 'to remove place bets - down with odds, set = True
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 2000
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000 And Bankroll < 3000
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 3000 And Bankroll < 4000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 4000 And Bankroll < 5000
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 5000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
The second method (Genius2parlay) was the .bet file I had and just needed to add the Fire Bet
They were both converted from 5.1c and I checked them over for any errors.
The code can be simplified if you want to do it
example:
DontPass = 25
'==== "Genius2parlay"
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive
EndIf
here is a photo of the sim for this one. I did it for both but took only one pic
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive
EndIf
here is a photo of the sim for this one. I did it for both but took only one pic
download for free and see how they work
quite simple once you see how the coding is done
Good Luck
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 20th, 2014 at 9:57:18 PM
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Quote: 7crapsjust using your first 2 betting systems and re-setting after a 7out
as you mentioned in your first post.
See if you can adjust these to your second post.
They are for WinCraps Pro only
I found an old .bet file that needed just a few items added.
Your first method (Genius1maxodds)
does not say what to do with place bets after a win, so you should be able to do whatever.
"After point is established:
Place $10/4, $15/5, $18/6, $18/8, $15/9, $10/10 (Leaving out the established point number)
$5.00 Come w/max odds on each number."'===="Genius1maxodds" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Same Bet/Take Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = False : 'to remove place bets - down with odds, set = True
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 2000
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000 And Bankroll < 3000
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 3000 And Bankroll < 4000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 4000 And Bankroll < 5000
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 5000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
The second method (Genius2parlay) was the .bet file I had and just needed to add the Fire Bet
They were both converted from 5.1c and I checked them over for any errors.
The code can be simplified if you want to do it
example:
DontPass = 25The WinCraps website has a few .bet files for Pro.'==== "Genius2parlay"
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive
EndIf
here is a photo of the sim for this one. I did it for both but took only one pic
download for free and see how they work
quite simple once you see how the coding is done
Good Luck
Wow! thank you 7Craps. You are a true genius. Yea I forgot to mention "Down w/Max odds on place bets"
8 more years till retirement.
January 21st, 2014 at 5:56:51 AM
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Quote: GWAEplease excuse my dumb question as I don't play craps much but what is meant by 3/4/5x odds. When I play we are allowed 10x odds but I never see it written like that at the tables.
Your question was already answered, but wanted to add on the reason for this. Players taking full odds on every point at a 3/4/5 table makes payouts easier for the dealers. Every payout will be 7 times the flat bet (3x @ 2:1 = 6, 4x @ 3:2 = 6, 5x @ 6:5 = 6, plus the flat bet = 7)
January 21st, 2014 at 9:54:20 AM
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I just changed the values to start with $350.00 Bankroll, and up the come bet after bankroll is up a couple hundred to make it more realistic.
'===="Genius1maxodds" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Same Bet/Take Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
One issue but no biggy.
1) Just have to manually delete the new place bets under the existing come bets when new point is established. If there is a way to fix this part would be perfect.
'===="Genius1maxodds" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Same Bet/Take Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
One issue but no biggy.
1) Just have to manually delete the new place bets under the existing come bets when new point is established. If there is a way to fix this part would be perfect.
8 more years till retirement.
January 21st, 2014 at 10:28:24 AM
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just think what needs to be doneQuote: CrapsGeniousOne issue but no biggy.
1) Just have to manually delete the new place bets under the existing come bets when new point is established.
If there is a way to fix this part would be perfect.
example keeping it simple (down with odds method)
if come4 > 0 then place4 = 0
'===="Genius1maxodds-v2" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'====== no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'====== no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 21st, 2014 at 2:31:18 PM
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Quote: 7crapsjust think what needs to be done
example keeping it simple (down with odds method)
if come4 > 0 then place4 = 0'===="Genius1maxodds-v2" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'====== no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Fire :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 10000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
That worked. Thank you again. :)
Did a trial run of 32 sessions and showed profit 21/32. So far so good.
8 more years till retirement.
January 22nd, 2014 at 2:58:19 AM
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just to show how much you have flown past me ...
I can't get Wincraps Pro to recognize any term for the Don't [dp or dc] in a autobets file. Help?
I can't get Wincraps Pro to recognize any term for the Don't [dp or dc] in a autobets file. Help?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 22nd, 2014 at 9:46:14 AM
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Here is a run of 100k.Quote: CrapsGeniousThat worked. Thank you again. :)
Did a trial run of 32 sessions and showed profit 21/32. So far so good.
RNG:#1
seed:123454321
come odds working on the come out roll
remember each session is one shooter.
If you want per 150 rolls or so, you need to add/change the code for that condition
an average loss of over $11 per shooter
150 shooters produced a profit of at least $1000
and 2 were over $5,000
also,
The code I posted earlier has an error for starting a new session
(I got hung up solving a bug in 5.1c and did not think)
I used the Classic5.1b method that is done differently in Pro.
I see you added the $5 Fire Bet on a come out roll
That is not the proper way to do this because you can't bet the Fire Bet every come out roll.
You did it so the bet would be made on a new shooter. My error.
here is the proper code that uses
If
Beginning new session
Then ...
block
this can be seen in the show steps during play mode (in auto bet) on how it works (or doesn't)
'===="Genius1maxodds-v2" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
and for Genius2parlay
'==== "Genius2parlay"
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 22nd, 2014 at 9:55:19 AM
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what code are you trying to use?Quote: odiousgambitI can't get Wincraps Pro to recognize any term for the Don't [dp or dc] in a autobets file. Help?
Don't or dont
is not allowed
to see what is allowed
make sure under options/ show syntax list is checked
and under variables you can see how the words should be spelled
or just select that you want to use
DontPass and DontCome are used correctly
but
Dont Pass = 100
will not work
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 22nd, 2014 at 5:56:11 PM
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almost forgot I asked this
thanks!
thanks!
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
January 22nd, 2014 at 7:17:11 PM
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Quote: 7crapsHere is a run of 100k.
RNG:#1
seed:123454321
come odds working on the come out roll
remember each session is one shooter.
If you want per 150 rolls or so, you need to add/change the code for that condition
an average loss of over $11 per shooter
150 shooters produced a profit of at least $1000
and 2 were over $5,000
also,
The code I posted earlier has an error for starting a new session
(I got hung up solving a bug in 5.1c and did not think)
I used the Classic5.1b method that is done differently in Pro.
I see you added the $5 Fire Bet on a come out roll
That is not the proper way to do this because you can't bet the Fire Bet every come out roll.
You did it so the bet would be made on a new shooter. My error.
here is the proper code that uses
If
Beginning new session
Then ...
block
this can be seen in the show steps during play mode (in auto bet) on how it works (or doesn't)'===="Genius1maxodds-v2" important to set up WC
'====use game/config bets and bankroll tabs to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $350 but allow for negative results.
' XXXX ==== for come bets and place bets same bet/take winning uncheck Put Bets or
'come bets will press each time on a win
'====odds working on cor or place bets adjust set action/auto-play window
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Take Bet and Winnings" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
AutoTake Full Odds = True :
AutoDown Place Bets = True :
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Then
Bet $10 on place4, place10 :
Bet $15 on place5, place9 :
Bet $18 on place6, place8 :
Bet $0 on place(point) : EndIf
'no place bets when come point >0
If Come4 > 0 Then Place4 = 0 EndIf
If Come5 > 0 Then Place5 = 0 EndIf
If Come6 > 0 Then Place6 = 0 EndIf
If Come8 > 0 Then Place8 = 0 EndIf
If Come9 > 0 Then Place9 = 0 EndIf
If Come10 > 0 Then Place10 = 0 EndIf
'========= come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll < 500
Then
Bet $5 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 500 And Bankroll < 700
Then
Bet $10 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 700 And Bankroll < 1000
Then
Bet $15 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 1000 And Bankroll < 1500
Then
Bet $20 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Bankroll >= 2000
Then
Bet $25 on Come :
GoTo "end" EndIf
'END ==== come bet value by bankroll interval
If
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $25 on Seven :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $100 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
and for Genius2parlay'==== "Genius2parlay"
'====use game/config to make these settings
'3x4x5x odds $5 table w/max bet $1000
'Bankroll $1000 but allow for negative results.
'====odds working cor or place bets adjust set action/autoplay
'place bets parlay needs to be defined in action/autoplay maybe auto w/ color correction
'or manual if you want a full parlay. you have to set what you want
If
Initializing script
Then
AutoHandle Winning bets = "Parlay" :
AutoLay Full Odds = False :
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
Beginning new session
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven :
Bet $5 on Fire :
GoTo "end" EndIf
If
A point is established on any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10) And
Last roll was a comeout roll
Or
A point is decided FOR any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Then
Bet $5 on all(Outside Place bets) :
Bet $6 on place6, place8 : EndIf
If
Seven out
Then
add 1 to cs1.#ofShootersInSession :
Start new session(preserve checkstacks) EndIf
If
Next roll is a comeout roll
Then
Bet $25 on DontPass :
Bet $5 on Eleven : EndIf
: "end" :
If
cs1.#ofShootersInSession = 20000 ' set # of shooters for simulation run
Then
Stop AutoRolling / HyperDrive EndIf
Maybe I need to load a dice file. i'm getting similar results averaging almost same every 150 hands played. Win 65%, Lose 35% . Noticing dice not giving me a chance for anything, Seeing 7's too many times in comparison to the real table where I show profits of 1k or more.
8 more years till retirement.
January 22nd, 2014 at 8:25:05 PM
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similar results are good.Quote: CrapsGeniousMaybe I need to load a dice file.
i'm getting similar results averaging almost same every 150 hands played.
Win 65%, Lose 35% .
Noticing dice not giving me a chance for anything,
Seeing 7's too many times in comparison to the real table where I show profits of 1k or more.
The number to pay attention to is the mean. Your average loss per shooter
The 100k sim I ran showed 150 shooters returned $1000 profit or more.
That seems about right when you consider the expected value and variance of the bets you do make.
Here is what the 35k actual dice rolls in Zumma Craps system tester book looks like
about the same
some say computer dice rolls are different from actual casino dice rolls and
they could be
I just do not see it in any data large enough to matter
I bet you could contact ShuffleMaster about their Rapid Craps game and they may have millions of actual dice rolls to give or sell.
Now
keep playing craps against house edge bets and with a probability of 100% all bankrolls
sooner or later will end up at 0 or not enough to make a minimum bet.
short pays on a win and take too much on a loss
great business model
give me more bets says the casino
more more more
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
January 23rd, 2014 at 2:34:31 AM
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Quote: 7crapssimilar results are good.
The number to pay attention to is the mean. Your average loss per shooter
The 100k sim I ran showed 150 shooters returned $1000 profit or more.
That seems about right when you consider the expected value and variance of the bets you do make.
Here is what the 35k actual dice rolls in Zumma Craps system tester book looks like
about the same
some say computer dice rolls are different from actual casino dice rolls and
they could be
I just do not see it in any data large enough to matter
I bet you could contact ShuffleMaster about their Rapid Craps game and they may have millions of actual dice rolls to give or sell.
Now
keep playing craps against house edge bets and with a probability of 100% all bankrolls
sooner or later will end up at 0 or not enough to make a minimum bet.
short pays on a win and take too much on a loss
great business model
give me more bets says the casino
more more more
I appreciate your posting these results. I'm gonna grab some dice roll history from the G4 machines on my next visit to the casino and enter them manually to see if any changes in winnings occur to bring me up to par with more realistic results in comparison to real game play.
I've never tried the online casinos because of lack of trust. I'd hate to use them as a reference.
8 more years till retirement.
