craps double system???? i need help!!!!!
August 5th, 2013 at 7:01:37 AM
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ok i gamble in shreveport la...... u can bet 5 on pass line and 500 odds.......... no matter what the point is..... i saying u start with 5pass/20 odds ok miss double it to 5/40.....5/80....5/160... and so on..... on average how many shoooters will it take to make a point...... i know on the 8 th shooter u have to have 25xx at risk but when u hit u will always profit as long as your bankroll dont vanish...... but that goes back to my question how many shooters will it take to make a point?????
also table max is 5k on the $5 min tables
also table max is 5k on the $5 min tables
August 5th, 2013 at 7:05:37 AM
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Quote: frestylr532...how many shooters will it take to make a point?????
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August 5th, 2013 at 7:10:06 AM
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ok dont care im just trying to make $ and just wanna know the math if u could help that would b appreciated
August 5th, 2013 at 7:31:51 AM
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Say hello to Mr. Martingale
If a table went cold, just imagine,
1. 5/5
2. 5/10
3. 5/20
4. 5/40
5. 5/80
6. 5/160
7. 5/320
8. 7/640
Got a bankroll?
I've on more than one ocassion seen a table go 10 shooters without a point.
If a table went cold, just imagine,
1. 5/5
2. 5/10
3. 5/20
4. 5/40
5. 5/80
6. 5/160
7. 5/320
8. 7/640
Got a bankroll?
I've on more than one ocassion seen a table go 10 shooters without a point.
"I am your average American gambling idiot" - Me
August 5th, 2013 at 7:33:03 AM
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is this a good system?????
$5/$20 starting point
lvl 1... avg win 36
2.. 42
3...60
4, 100
5.186
6, 364
$5/$20 starting point
lvl 1... avg win 36
2.. 42
3...60
4, 100
5.186
6, 364
August 5th, 2013 at 7:34:47 AM
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u think this would be a bad system if u have 10k?
August 5th, 2013 at 7:54:21 AM
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its a terrible system
in the end you wont have your $10,000 long. Systems like this sound good, but you only
have to hit one snag and your done.
The other day we ran through 13 guys in a row before some one made a point. Add up your
investment going into the 14th shooter????
We screwed around with the 3, 11 bet for kicks and giggles.... you wait until the 11 has not
hit for 25 rolls, then bet $1, $2 and so on until it hits. Well i hit the table limit at 2 casino's
and the last one it took the 25 rolls plus 56 rolls before it hit. You would say that just cant
happen....... but ya it can and it will.
Dont look for some shortcut to beat the game, play smart and work hard at your game
dicesetter
in the end you wont have your $10,000 long. Systems like this sound good, but you only
have to hit one snag and your done.
The other day we ran through 13 guys in a row before some one made a point. Add up your
investment going into the 14th shooter????
We screwed around with the 3, 11 bet for kicks and giggles.... you wait until the 11 has not
hit for 25 rolls, then bet $1, $2 and so on until it hits. Well i hit the table limit at 2 casino's
and the last one it took the 25 rolls plus 56 rolls before it hit. You would say that just cant
happen....... but ya it can and it will.
Dont look for some shortcut to beat the game, play smart and work hard at your game
dicesetter
August 5th, 2013 at 8:00:41 AM
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maybe u can help me and a group of friends are trying to find a way to profit in this game...... we pool our $ and split it... so would it be good to wait till 5 people 7 out without a point then start this betting or just stick to 30 six and 8
August 5th, 2013 at 8:02:56 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
August 5th, 2013 at 8:06:59 AM
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Quote: dicesitterits a terrible system
We screwed around with the 3, 11 bet for kicks and giggles.... you wait until the 11 has not
hit for 25 rolls, then bet $1, $2 and so on until it hits. Well i hit the table limit at 2 casino's
and the last one it took the 25 rolls plus 56 rolls before it hit. You would say that just cant
happen....... but ya it can and it will.
Dont look for some shortcut to beat the game, play smart and work hard at your game
dicesetter
Wow, so the 11 didn't roll for 80 rolls??? That's pretty far outside the standard deviation.
A lot of places won't book more than a $200 yo, so even starting at $1 you'd get there.
"I am your average American gambling idiot" - Me
August 5th, 2013 at 8:18:47 AM
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Sigh.
Martingaling the odds is not a great idea. It's not so unprobable to miss a pile of points in a row.
The odds of making a point is 6/24*3/9+8/24*4/10+10/24*5/11 = .406061. Therefore there is a 59.3939% probability of missing a point. The odds of seeing 8 shooters in a row miss their point is 1.5486%.
So, if you progress with 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x, 64x odds you will be done fairly quickly.
If you decide to hang around for 44 shooters, you have about a 50/50 shot of seeing 8 seven outs (or more) in a row.
It's a really dumb way to probably and quickly lose your money.
Martingaling the odds is not a great idea. It's not so unprobable to miss a pile of points in a row.
The odds of making a point is 6/24*3/9+8/24*4/10+10/24*5/11 = .406061. Therefore there is a 59.3939% probability of missing a point. The odds of seeing 8 shooters in a row miss their point is 1.5486%.
So, if you progress with 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x, 64x odds you will be done fairly quickly.
If you decide to hang around for 44 shooters, you have about a 50/50 shot of seeing 8 seven outs (or more) in a row.
It's a really dumb way to probably and quickly lose your money.
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August 5th, 2013 at 8:24:23 AM
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Clark
That is the problem....once you hit the table limit and in our area it is only $50 on prop bets your screwed.
not to memtion you need enough money to play the game plus make this bet on every roll.
I had made a couple of bucks the first three times i tried it, but the last time i had only $75 left in
my pocket when it hit on the 56th roll.
I have not lived that bet down....with the table crew or my friends
Dicesetter
That is the problem....once you hit the table limit and in our area it is only $50 on prop bets your screwed.
not to memtion you need enough money to play the game plus make this bet on every roll.
I had made a couple of bucks the first three times i tried it, but the last time i had only $75 left in
my pocket when it hit on the 56th roll.
I have not lived that bet down....with the table crew or my friends
Dicesetter
August 5th, 2013 at 9:23:05 AM
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Quote: ClarkWGriswoldWow, so the 11 didn't roll for 80 rolls???
Actually, I once saw the Ace-Deuce disappear for 105 rolls. Crazy. And yes, I started betting $1 on it after 60 rolls, and stopped at 90. What a waste. LOL
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August 5th, 2013 at 10:40:50 AM
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Quote: frestylr532ok i gamble in shreveport la...... u can bet 5 on pass line and 500 odds.......... no matter what the point is..... i saying u start with 5pass/20 odds ok miss double it to 5/40.....5/80....5/160... and so on..... on average how many shoooters will it take to make a point...... i know on the 8 th shooter u have to have 25xx at risk but when u hit u will always profit as long as your bankroll dont vanish...... but that goes back to my question how many shooters will it take to make a point?????
also table max is 5k on the $5 min tables
Apparently the Marty is like a Vampire...very hard to kill.
August 5th, 2013 at 10:47:30 AM
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You will get destroyed using the Marty... no ifs, ands, or buts.
I completed a practice session a few weeks ago with 14 straight shooters missing their point!!!!
I completed a practice session a few weeks ago with 14 straight shooters missing their point!!!!
