Laying odds only
Other than calling 'No Action' immediately after the first roll on a Don't Come bet (and either taking it down or leaving it on the DC), you CANNOT call 'No Action' on a DC bet (that has already traveled) for one roll or any amount of rolls. If you no longer want action on a DC bet, you have to take the bet down completely. You are free to do whatever you want with your money at that point.
But be warned, you CANNOT put a DC bet back up after it has already been taken down.
Quote: Beethoven9thCrapperJohn, you should check your existing threads before starting a new one. The 'No Action' question was already addressed in your other thread.
Other than calling 'No Action' immediately after the first roll on a Don't Come bet (and either taking it down or leaving it on the DC), you CANNOT call 'No Action' on a DC bet (that has already traveled) for one roll or any amount of rolls. If you no longer want action on a DC bet, you have to take the bet down completely. You are free to do whatever you want with your money at that point.
But be warned, you CANNOT put a DC bet back up after it has already been taken down.
You forgot to tell CrapperJohn that he can't win because of the HE. It's very irresponsible of you to explain moves on the craps table without adding the 'you can't win' disclaimer. It's terrible that CrapperJohn didn't check existing threads prior to posting here. Beethoven9th were you or are you now a hall monitor?
First, unlike your buddy gr8, CrapperJohn never claimed that he could overcome the House Advantage. Big difference.Quote: treetopbuddyYou forgot to tell CrapperJohn that he can't win because of the HE.
FYI, I just find it slightly annoying when I go through the trouble of responding to somebody's question only to find that the same person has asked the same question again.Quote: treetopbuddyIt's terrible that CrapperJohn didn't check existing threads prior to posting here.
When you make a Don't Pass/Don't Come bet, you 'lay' odds.
Quote: CrapperJohnStill learning. Does anyone ever just Lay Odds and nothing else? Can these be called "No Action" if I choose? Still trying to understand the "No Action" and what to say to put it back into action. It someone could give me a scenario using "No Action" on/off that would help. I am definitely going to the 11am to learn. Thanks for bearing with this noob.
You cannot lay odds without having first a DP or DC bet. Similarly, you cannot take odds on the lightside without a Pass line bet. As explained in the wizardofodds.com, you can lay money against any point number without a line bet, but such a bet requires a 5% commission to the casino.
Quote: darthvaderYou cannot lay odds without having first a DP or DC bet. Similarly, you cannot take odds on the lightside without a Pass line bet. As explained in the wizardofodds.com, you can lay money against any point number without a line bet, but such a bet requires a 5% commission to the casino.
Good call. Totally forgot that he could have been referring to a laying a number.
CrapperJohn, if you do decide to make a Lay bet and want to get the most bang for your buck, don't lay any less than $40 behind the 4/10, $30 behind the 5/9, and $24 behind the 6/8. Otherwise, your commission will end up being more than 5%.
For the first time at the Craps table, you are going to want to get the feel of things and forget about the rest. You want to focus on etiquette issues more than anything. If you want to play the Don't Pass, that's OK, but actually I wouldnt really even recommend such a mild departure from the norm because you won't be used to the *simplest* stuff like observing whether the puck is on or off before plunking your chips down. Do you know why a Darksider needs to know this? If you have hesitated at all to answer you are just about guaranteed to embarrass yourself.
Playing anything but the line really gets crazy for a newbie because you have to interact with the dealers and they will be pissed to find you are a newbie and trying to make the kind of bets that make their job hard. When to call "no action"? Hooboy, brother, you are getting into the weeds, sir.
Start out with Pass Line Bets. Come Bets. Place Bets.
If you like 'the Don'ts' you can switch later but learn the easy way first.
Pass Line bets and Come Bets that have traveled to a number allow you to TAKE the Odds.
Dont Pass and Dont Come Bets permit you to LAY the odds. (The reason it is "lay" is that one "lay" the favorite and favorite is seven for the Don't Players).
"No Action" is an unwise call to make on the Dark Side and you should not be talked into doing it.
If you choose to make place bets, that is fine... they will be paid off at a rate favorable to the casino.
Don't bother trying to swallow too much at once.
Quote: odiousgambitCrapperJohn, you are creating a big problem for yourself by making this way too complicated.
For the first time at the Craps table, you are going to want to get the feel of things and forget about the rest. You want to focus on etiquette issues more than anything. If you want to play the Don't Pass, that's OK, but actually I wouldnt really even recommend such a mild departure from the norm because you won't be used to the *simplest* stuff like observing whether the puck is on or off before plunking your chips down. Do you know why a Darksider needs to know this? If you have hesitated at all to answer you are just about guaranteed to embarrass yourself.
Playing anything but the line really gets crazy for a newbie because you have to interact with the dealers and they will be pissed to find you are a newbie and trying to make the kind of bets that make their job hard. When to call "no action"? Hooboy, brother, you are getting into the weeds, sir.
+1
I'm glad you said it because I was thinking the exact same thing about CrapperJohn and his upcoming Vegas visit. He's making things WAY more complicated than they need to be. Unfortunately, I have the feeling that he's going to (inadvertently) annoy the dealers and his fellow players, but I do hope I'm wrong.
