I have some questions, need some help please thank you

Some questions,

1. I see alot of craps machines in the Vegas area called "aruze gaming shoot to win craps" please YouTube it if you never seen it before please, also another one from shuffle master I think and any other non-real table craps machines, the big question is any techniques that you can use to beat and win in the long run with those craps machines?

2. I just came to Vegas recently and want to try some blackjack counting and sharpshooting craps but I'm very worried about either getting banned and maybe even getting arrested which casinos can I go to and not go to avoid getting banned or arrested.

3. is there a "get together" community on this forum for sharpshooters where we can meetup in the vegas area? maybe names of casinos and days/times you can meet other sharpshooters friends?

4. (a bit off topic but I guess I will ask) My hotel comps is running out from the total rewards Caesars casinos any tips on earning more hotel comps days the easy way with the lowest cost house edge anywhere in the Vegas area would be ok

Thank you very very much for your time!!!! help would be greatly appreciated! thank you

Electronic craps is the same as regular craps: Shoot only to the North, Kiss a beautiful woman to the East... and then roll numbers that win.

Arrested ? Banned?? Heck, it takes alot to even get the Floor Person to wake up. Without any cheating device or card-switching companion an arrest is extremely unlikely. Banned usually requires massive bet variations and you will usually just be "backed off" first, with an "Any game you want other than Blackjack".

Good luck.

1. There's really no way to beat these games. But they usually have low limits and full 5x odds.
2. Counting cards is not illegal. There aren't many casinos that will let you get away with doing what you'd need to in order to win, though. They watch for big bet spreads and obvious play changes. Some folks have had success with short sessions - short enough that it isn't obvious that the betting changes and play changes are abnormal for the player.
3. You've just missed our annual official meet-up. I think some of the locals do get together to play craps, and they do attempt dice-influence. There's a lot of doubt on this board about whether that's actually possible.
4. Stations casinos are liberal with comps and offer 10x odds on craps.

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2. I just came to Vegas recently and want to try some blackjack counting and sharpshooting craps but I'm very worried about either getting banned and maybe even getting arrested which casinos can I go to and not go to avoid getting banned or arrested.

Do you plan on cheating or something? Why would you worry about getting arrested?

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3. is there a "get together" community on this forum for sharpshooters where we can meetup in the vegas area? maybe names of casinos and days/times you can meet other sharpshooters friends?

You should meet up with member (and craps expert) 'Ahigh'. You can find a bunch of his posts in the Craps section.

Im only planning on counting cards and dice setting, they are not something you can get arrest for right? I hope advantage play is not considered arrest-able

Card counting isn't illegal, but they can ban you from playing at that property and will ask you to leave if you get too obvious with counting/bet spreading.

Dice sliding is illegal. But you can set the dice before you throw as you wish since for 99.99% of players, this changes nothing. If you slow down the game doing it though, they might yell at you.

That is correct, you have nothing to fear.

Card counting is so easy that they would not know you were doing it in most cases
unless your a high dollar better. Also card counting only helps if the game rules
at that casino are ok including the deck penetration.


Also there are a number of dice setters in Vegas, some good , most poor so the dealers are
used to seeing them, and the vast majority of the dealers do not think it works anyway. Average
dice setter wont have any problems, now Laughflin, Wendover
or Tunica, that is a different story.

Good luck and have fun

Dicesetter

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Average dice setter wont have any problems, now Laughflin, Wendover or Tunica, that is a different story.

What makes setting there particularly risky? Have they had an issue with craps there before?

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Also card counting only helps if the game rules
at that casino are ok including the deck penetration.

I feel like this is bad wording. Card counting usually helps except maybe 6 to 5 games where a +EV count is fairly rare. But some games have bad enough rules where card counting will only be able to shave down the overall edge.

well it is never risky... some just wont allow you to play or if your throw is decent they will
hassel you by telling you to throw harder and harder.

It is nothing to worry about, if they dont like setting of the dice just play some where else.

I was just at laughflin, and a couple of places were not fun, and my boddy just got back from Wendover
and i guess they wont allow you to set there, Tunica is fun, but there are a couple of places or maybe
just a couple or nervous pit boss guys.

Just play the game and have fun, 99% of the time you will be fine.

dicesetter.

it is matter of word choice, i wont play at a table were can only double down on 10 or 11, or where there is a
1 deck game and 5-6 players. If you have an edge it is only 1 hand

Dicesetter

thank you for all the people that reply to this post!!! another question, for some of the sharpshooters here if you wanted to hit exactly or avoid 7s, what percentage can you hit or not hit the 7s from default of 16.6%, im just curious assuming long term avg. thank you

Anyone else here happen to be in the Vegas area that are a well skilled shooter? thank you