Is Dice Control Real? Can It Be Tested?
Quote: hardtenFortunately, I can do exactly this. Maybe not every single throw. And I won't be able to call exactly which hard number will result. But I would say 1 out of every 20 throws will do exactly this. I can't wait to get it recorded and upload it for this thread. Land together, bounce in the same way, and come to rest as a hard - number, with the same face in the same if not almost the same direction. example: hard ten, 3's facing back towards me at a similar angle.
A hard number at the end is not needed. Just show me the dice as they fly, bounce, roll or bounce to the back wall and come to rest. Shew me that in slow motion. Let's see your "control" of the dice.
SHOW ME YOU CAN DO IT JUST ONE TIME.
talk about his finances as much as Ahigh. Nobody asks
him, so you have to assume its 90% BS. He dreams up
something almost every day to hint at how well he's doing.
Its comical, its weird, its disturbing.
Quote: EvenBobI said before, in 20 years online I've never seen anybody talk about his finances as much as Ahigh. Nobody asks him, so you have to assume its 90% BS. He dreams up something almost every day to hint at how well he's doing. Its comical, its weird, its disturbing.
Glad to see that we are free of compunction in going off-topic (and "off-logic") with our personal attacks.
I would like to recount here an incident in which one of the forum members repeatedly shouted ethnic slurs at a minority in a casino.
Quote: EvenBobI said before, in 20 years online I've never seen anybody
talk about his finances as much as Ahigh. Nobody asks
him, so you have to assume its 90% BS. He dreams up
something almost every day to hint at how well he's doing.
Its comical, its weird, its disturbing.
I agree. I believe a small portion of what he says, both about his craps results and personal life. I don't think he's a bad guy, I just think the elevator might not be stopping at every floor. I'm not really sure at this point
ZCore13
Quote: AxelWolfIf you have given up on the show what now? I guess if you have some DI then no need to prove anything just play craps win big and get the last laugh all the way to the bank.
This is what prompted me to share about my finances.
Some people want me to share and some people don't. It's absolutely easier not to, especially when it comes to comments like the comments above doubting what I am saying.
I contacted a financial adviser recently and talked with him on the phone this morning.
Part of talking about my finances is just my interest to do well. I don't know everything, and I learn from sharing what I'm doing.
I can easily prove anything that anyone doubts about my finances by showing them to someone I trust (tupp would be an example of someone I could trust). The thing is that I would prefer to have the credibility that you could believe what I'm saying. I think it will be fun to chart my progress.
There's others who have shared numbers too. The guy who just told us he lost $100,000 at Riviera on 1000x odds for example.
I'm not the only one. I just really want to have my numbers go in the right direction, and I want to lock them up into the home equity and get rid of that mortgage payment is all. Retire sooner and all that stuff.
Quote: FleaStiffWould you believe the above quote is from PAGE ONE and this is PAGE TWENTY-Four ... in between you got hash and you got re-hash.Quote: NareedNo hostility. But also no arguments. If there is proof, just show it. Otherwise I'm not interested in rehashing the subject yet again
In all the history of craps no one has ever produced a professional craps player. All the dealers and box men nationwide have never found one and no one has ever stepped forward as a successful pro player. And no casino has ever banned a Dice Controller for winning, only for slow play!
In case y'all didn't see it a dozen pages ago.
Just believing something doesn't make it true.
Those last four sentences look to be all wishful thinking on your part to me.
But nice thinking for someone who wants a conclusion.
If its what many people can do after taking the classes than you have seen it, why do you
keep asking.
And I cant show you one of Ahigh videoes because he does not have a controlled throw at
all, I have seen 5-6 of his shows and his throw is completely random. I am not saying Ahigh
cant do it, i am sure he can, he just has never had anyone show him enough to be able to
do it.
Ahighs throw does not look like my throw, is surely does not look like Franks throw, or other
guys that have an excellent throw.
dicesitter.
Quote: dicesitterI am not saying Ahigh cant do it, i am sure he can, he just has never had anyone show him enough to be able to do it.
He could certainly use some of the wealth he brags about to pay for his attendance at a dice setting seminar.
Hello, Golden Touch Craps?
We got a live one for ya ...
But maybe attending a formal course of instruction would prove beneficial to you.
You are financially and emotionally invested in DI; IIRC you haven't taken a formal course of instruction yet.
Sure, I think it is a bunch of hooey, but it may prove of great worth to you.
If I was invested into DI, I would still have a $15,000 bankroll instead of paying down my mortgage.
I just made the decision about mid last week to dump my cash into my mortgage though. So I'm more vested into retiring and my 9 to 5 job.
I don't need classes. And I still have fun just getting lucky if that's all it is. I'm happy with that.
Quote: dicesitterALAN
If its what many people can do after taking the classes than you have seen it, why do you
keep asking.
And I cant show you one of Ahigh videoes because he does not have a controlled throw at
all, I have seen 5-6 of his shows and his throw is completely random. I am not saying Ahigh
cant do it, i am sure he can, he just has never had anyone show him enough to be able to
do it.
Ahighs throw does not look like my throw, is surely does not look like Franks throw, or other
guys that have an excellent throw.
dicesitter.
The easy part is what can be learned in class and that is the throw that is on axis, with the dice staying together, and hitting the end of the come box. I am yet to see the "rest" which includes the soft bounce off the back wall with the dice still on axis from anyone EXCEPT the two players I mentioned.
So that is the challenge, dicesitter: ALL of what goes into a controlled throw. Can you do it?
or influence and can it be done or not be done. You just said you have seen it done so that is
enough for me....
Amen... dice control and axis control is possible.
Now i can go back and just play the game..
This took a lot longer than it needed to.
Now when we are in Vegas in October we can just play craps and have fun. I would be pleased to meet up with anyone and just play.
Dicesitter
Further, I have been at tables where random shooters have done as well or better.
But as I always have said, it doesnt hurt to try and keep on trying.
I'll bet they did.
That is as true a statement as has ever been posted.......the dice looked perfect in the air
they land and go to the back wall, come to rest both the same distance from the back wall
and it is a 4/3. How in the hell did that happen, they came to rest perfectly on axis, yet
one die went 1 face over to much forward and 1 backward....
This is something they dont teach you in grad school and also not in a craps class. The
fact that as your throw gets better and better, you can actually throw many more
7's than a random thrower if you are just a tad off.
And one has to be honest, we are more apt to be a tad off than perfect.
Dice controll is not only possible, but it can also be more frustrating than my first
wife, just not cost me as much money.
dicesitter
Quote: DeMangoDicesitter; Gosh, you are so ready to go on the Ahigh show! Take SOOPOO's money. On your way to making a liar out of MrV. Wear a mask and Depends.
My money is available for the taking. I'll be that dicesitter cannot roll more than 60 "6's and 8's" in two hundred rolls. Expected is 55.5. So around a third of random rollers can do it. I'm betting dicesitter can't. 61 you win. 60 or fewer you lose. I'll bet Aaron will allow his dice palace to be used......
Nickolay and tupp stepped up to the plate with money on the line, will you?
Quote: MrVYou are financially and emotionally invested in DI . . .
That is the problem with any "true believers" in astrology, numerology, facilitated communication, etc. I don't know if the secondary gain is the benefit or perhaps its the secondary loss is so intolerable.
Ain't no casino anywhere closing its doors due to dice setters. Ain't no one nowhere who is actually a professional craps player year after year in the black due to some sort of influence over the laws of physics and collisions with frets.
Is dice influencing real? Yes, its a real pain in the xxx.
Quote: SOOPOOMy money is available for the taking. I'll be that dicesitter cannot roll more than 60 "6's and 8's" in one hundred rolls. Expected is 55.5. So around a third of random rollers can do it. I'm betting dicesitter can't. 61 you win. 60 or fewer you lose. I'll bet Aaron will allow his dice palace to be used......
Nickolay and tupp stepped up to the plate with money on the line, will you?
What math are you doing? The 6 & 8 each have an expected percentage of 13.89%. Meaning you would expect just about 27.5 6's & 8's out of 100.
Quote: hardtenWhat math are you doing? The 6 & 8 each have an expected percentage of 13.89%. Meaning you would expect just about 27.5 6's & 8's out of 100.
Sorry- two hundred rolls..... as we did for the nickolay challenge.... I'll edit original post...
Quote: SOOPOOSorry- two hundred rolls..... as we did for the nickolay challenge.... I'll edit original post...
Thank you! Can't have bad math flying around here.
Quote: MrVDid either of those guys, after throwing what looked to you to be a perfect, on axis throw, dice slaved together, soft landing, soft kiss of the wall ... did they ever wind up with a seven out on their otherwise beautiful toss?
I'll bet they did.
The only time I ever had "perfect rolls" was at Bellagio... three times in a row. Using cross sixes on top, 5-4 showing in the front, and three times in a row the dice finished leaning against the back wall showing 5-4. All three times it was a freak of nature. Never in my wildest dreams could I ever hope to do that, or do it again.
But thats when the crew went ballistic on me, accusing me of being a dice mechanic, refused to pay the second and third times it happened, and... well, Ive told the story many times.
Besides that V, whenever my dice hit the back wall, they move around, just as they should. I don't pretend to have any control. Never did.
Out of 100 rolls you would expect what you said,, about 27.5% of a combination of 6 & 8.
or 27.5 of them.... my records are pretty decent, if i can get 30-35% 6 & 8's in combination i can
win, because i have over-come the house advantage. trying to get 55 or 60 of them in every hundred
rolls is a pipe dream.
dicesitter
Quote: dicesitterhuh????????
Out of 100 rolls you would expect what you said,, about 27.5% of a combination of 6 & 8.
or 27.5 of them.... my records are pretty decent, if i can get 30-35% 6 & 8's in combination i can
win, because i have over-come the house advantage. trying to get 55 or 60 of them in every hundred
rolls is a pipe dream.
dicesitter
He meant 200. I already addressed his math and it has been noted accordingly. But 55-60 out of 100 would be near god like, I agree.
Quote: dicesitterhuh????????
Out of 100 rolls you would expect what you said,, about 27.5% of a combination of 6 & 8.
or 27.5 of them.... my records are pretty decent, if i can get 30-35% 6 & 8's in combination i can
win, because i have over-come the house advantage. trying to get 55 or 60 of them in every hundred
rolls is a pipe dream.
dicesitter
If you have a way to do live broadcast or next to you go to Las Vegas you can stop off at Ahigh's. I've got some money that says you can't roll 35 6/8's out of 100.
ZCore13
Each person says things differently, and he's not claiming he can do 35% in 100 throws.
To anybody here that thinks they can beat craps at a normal casino with normal rules. No extra pays from dealer mistakes crap or funny stuff or cheating. I will book your action. Simple, None of this I can roll x this and x that in x amount of rolls. Stay as long as you want leave when you want. I don't care about anything else. I will let you decide PRIOR if you want the info released or not. Las Vegas only. I think this would be a win, win, win, win for me. 1) I think I would have an edge 2) Fun 3) If I'm wrong I will have had free craps and DI lessons - the small % Ill be out due to your shifted advantage. 4) I will make new friends.
Ahigh DON'T give up, prove you can or can't do it. I don't believe you believe you have not put a lot into this. Don't do it for the skeptics do it for your fans. I believe your critics now believe you no longer think DI is possible. Even some of your latest post seem as if your slowly backing off your once firm I believe stance.
Some of us may not think its "feasible" There's probably some Shaolin monk somewhere that could lean how to pull this off.
However we still like your show, perhaps you could have your show cover other things as well.
I have been enjoying having some vocal supporters lately, both on the forums, and in the casinos on my better rolls.
Things are going alright, and the critics, especially those who don't even take the time to know what I am really doing, will always be there to just spout off whatever garbage is in their brain without thinking at all.
Here's a comment I got on one of my you tube videos today:
Quote: Alejandro OrozcoThis shits fucking retarted just like you old piece if shit get a life!
This will never go away, and in fact, as I become more successful, this is just the beginning.
Relating the frequency of criticism with the level of success may be a healthier way to proceed.
Criticism can be a sign of success in some instances.
