Next show is the March 11th show

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 5th, 2013 at 8:48:33 PM permalink

I got the upstream key stuff working. Using a "luma key" I can now overlay just the text output and graph in a way that does not interfere. The only remaining technical hurdle for the show is to get some feedback for ratio of sevens in the graph output.

aahigh.com

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 6th, 2013 at 9:14:58 AM permalink

I did a test show last night and recorded. I had horrible rsr's but many hard eights. I really just wanted to record some more throws to see what's going on because I have not been doing well in the casino. Curious about feedback on the way I am combining graphs with the video.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-ahigh-show

aahigh.com

AlanMendelson

AlanMendelson

Threads: 167
Posts: 5937

Joined: Oct 5, 2011

March 6th, 2013 at 9:44:01 AM permalink

I was sent an email that your show was "live" but unfortunately Ustream did not give me advance notice. I am subscribed to your show.

I looked at the recording but you can't expect someone to watch a recording the same way they would watch a live show. When it's recorded, you expect to see the "dead air" edited out.

With "live shows" we accept the "wait" before the action.

I noticed your screen graphics overlays immediately and frankly they are "too much."

I think anyone interested in seeing the throws of the dice would rather see a split sreen with one camera show you throwing, and one camera on the dice hitting the table. If you were able to hit a "sweet spot" on the table, an "isolated shot" on where the dice hit and roll would be wonderful... but you don't do that.

Your graphics should be updated as you do, and then perhaps shows FULL SCREEN over a plain background to make it easier to read. Show your grpahics either between shots or after a number of shots.

Your grpahics tend to get lost in the overlay on the craps table. It's "too busy." The graphics and text just aren't bold enough to be easily seen. So keep them separate from your shot of table.

One of the problems with TV news in "small markets" is that the producers tend to "over produce" meaning that they do things just because they can do things without regard to whether or not it improves the picture or the story. In big markets they make this mistake too, sometimes. This is why when you watch even network TV today there are so many "bugs" (icons) and "crawls" (text running along the bottom) and "graphics" and split screens -- and all these become so many distrations you can't watch the show you're trying to watch.

So, when you want people to see your throws... show your throws.
When you want people to see your graphics... show your graphics.

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 6th, 2013 at 9:50:00 AM permalink

Thanks for the feedback Alan. It's still work in progress and the feedback is very useful.

aahigh.com

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 8th, 2013 at 11:40:22 AM permalink

The roster for the show:

1) SOOPOO
2) Nickolay
3) Harley
4) Ahigh
5) Tupp
6) TeddyS

I am not sure Teddy will show up, but he is going to be here. He hasn't said if he wants to come or not, but he's invited.

We will be having food and fun all day and broadcasting everything. If you're going to be there, get in whatever you want me to have on hand in terms of food and drinks and what-not.

I'm going to have Marco's Pepperoni Pizza and Coca-Cola and bottled water for sure. But if you want anything special, just let me know and I'll pick it up for ya. There's also Thai food that delivers and of course Chinese and what-not. Just let me know.

I've done a lot of work to prepare the software and broadcast system for this show. So hopefully it will all pay off and we'll have a good event that's fun for all.

I also want to thank all the members including 7craps and others who have helped me with my math, specifically the chi-squared parts, to get that in my software and to help me understand how that works to look at the possibility of an influenced throw.

I am less confident that I have a throw that can overcome the edge now than I was a few weeks ago, but there is still some feeling that it's possible. I am hopeful that after the show I am more confident than I am now that I have a good shot. And I also hope to provide a platform for others who feel confident that they have a shot that we can have a demonstration including statistical analysis and actual real-world evidence to assert as much.

There are very obviously people out there who think they have a good shot who have nothing.

Let the games begin!

aahigh.com

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 8th, 2013 at 12:00:24 PM permalink

I will be there in spirit only. Tupp will perform any necessary exorcism.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

nickolay411

nickolay411

Threads: 13
Posts: 283

Joined: Sep 7, 2011

March 9th, 2013 at 7:08:53 PM permalink

Ahigh,

I'm pretty excited for the show... I know you have a lot of equipment so I just wanted to let you know that I shoot SL1. Hopefully that helps you position some equipment better...

My flight gets in about 10am on Sunday. So I'll be free to play if anyone is interested.

Cheers,
N

SOOPOO

SOOPOO

Threads: 123
Posts: 11528

Joined: Aug 8, 2010

March 9th, 2013 at 8:29:28 PM permalink

Quote: nickolay411
Hey SOOPOO,

Can I take you up on your offer to pick me up from the Vdara on your way over to Ahigh's place? If not I can get a taxi.

I will pm you my contact information.

7craps

7craps

Threads: 18
Posts: 1977

Joined: Jan 23, 2010

March 11th, 2013 at 6:26:25 PM permalink

Quote: nickolay411
I'm pretty excited for the show... Cheers,N

Well done. Fun to watch.
here are some results I have, I am sure Ahigh can add more to this.
204 total rolls in your session

39 7s
ev: 34
about 1SD better than expected

The $5pass/345x odds bettor results (casino credit - no starting bankroll)
highest gain: 65
lowest gain: -250
ending gain: -120

The $5Dpass/345x odds bettor results
highest gain: 215
lowest gain: -95
ending gain: 105

The length of your hands
18,3, 6,2,23,3,6,4,16,4,8,4,
20,6, 17,2,2,4,3, 2,5,16,5,8, 4,14+

You either went out by the 6th roll or made it to the 16th
picture form

Here is the length of the last game (round) for each hand. Establish a point then 7out on the Nth roll.
(a new stat I came up with. Note how many PSO there are - length 2. Prob for a PSO is 0.280612245 or 55/196)
3,2,6,2,2,2,4,4,15,2,2,2,
5,6,5,2,2,4,3,2,4,10,3,8,4

Your rounds per hand and some more stats per hand
Hand #15 - 10 come out rolls in 17 rolls total (7 naturals in a row)

hand #1
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 9,2,6,4h,10h,8,11,10,9,win (9,#)
cor 8,9,9,8,win (4,#)
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 6,8,7,out (3,#)
hand #1 18 roll hand
5 # COR
2 # Point Wins
2 # Fire Bets
2,3 hand score: pass,miss
8 # Place Hits

hand #2
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 9,7,out (2,#)
hand #2 3 roll hand
2 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #3
cor 10,4,11,11,2,7,out (6,#)
hand #3 6 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
1 # Place Hits

hand #4
cor 6,7,out (2,#)
hand #4 2 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #5
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 5,9,8,8,9,10,4,6,4,9,11,8,6,8,6,4,8,6,11,5,win (20,#)
cor 5,7,out (2,#)
hand #5 23 roll hand
3 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
2,1 hand score: pass,miss
16 # Place Hits

hand #6
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 6,7,out (2,#)
hand #6 3 roll hand
2 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #7
cor 8,8h,win (2,#)
cor 4,9,5,7,out (4,#)
hand #7 6 roll hand
2 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
2 # Place Hits

hand #8
cor 4h,9,5,7,out (4,#)
hand #8 4 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
2 # Place Hits

hand #9
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 8,5,5,4,4,10h,9,9,5,3,5,9,4h,9,7,out (15,#)
hand #9 16 roll hand
2 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
12 # Place Hits

hand #10
cor 11,win (1,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 8,7,out (2,#)
hand #10 4 roll hand
3 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
2,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #11
cor 9,6,5,3,9,win (5,#)
cor 11,win (1,#)
cor 5,7,out (2,#)
hand #11 8 roll hand
3 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
2,1 hand score: pass,miss
2 # Place Hits

hand #12
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 10,7,out (2,#)
hand #12 4 roll hand
3 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
2,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #13
cor 10h,10,win (2,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 4,6h,4,win (3,#)
cor 4,12,8,3,6,3,4,win (7,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 6,8h,5,2,7,out (5,#)
hand #13 20 roll hand
7 # COR
3 # Point Wins
2 # Fire Bets
5,2 hand score: pass,miss
5 # Place Hits

hand #14
cor 9,8,10,3,6h,7,out (6,#)
hand #14 6 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
3 # Place Hits

hand #15
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 10,8,11,10,win (4,#)
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 3,crap out (1,#)
cor 12,crap out (1,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 12,crap out (1,#)
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 4,8,6h,5,7,out (5,#)
hand #15 17 roll hand
10 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
4,6 hand score: pass,miss
4 # Place Hits

hand #16
cor 8h,7,out (2,#)
hand #16 2 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #17
cor 9,7,out (2,#)
hand #17 2 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #18
cor 9,5,4,7,out (4,#)
hand #18 4 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
2 # Place Hits

hand #19
cor 8,5,7,out (3,#)
hand #19 3 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
1 # Place Hits

hand #20
cor 5,7,out (2,#)
hand #20 2 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
0 # Place Hits

hand #21
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 9,11,5,7,out (4,#)
hand #21 5 roll hand
2 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
1 # Place Hits

hand #22
cor 12,crap out (1,#)
cor 2,crap out (1,#)
cor 10,8,2,10h,win (4,#)
cor 9,11,4,10,5,5,8,6h,5,7,out (10,#)
hand #22 16 roll hand
4 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
1,3 hand score: pass,miss
8 # Place Hits

hand #23
cor 5,5,win (2,#)
cor 8,6h,7,out (3,#)
hand #23 5 roll hand
2 # COR
1 # Point Wins
1 # Fire Bets
1,1 hand score: pass,miss
1 # Place Hits

hand #24
cor 4h,5,9,5,10,5,5,7,out (8,#)
hand #24 8 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
6 # Place Hits

hand #25
cor 5,6,6h,7,out (4,#)
hand #25 4 roll hand
1 # COR
0 # Point Wins
0 # Fire Bets
0,1 hand score: pass,miss
2 # Place Hits

hand #26
cor 4h,8,2,8,4h,win (5,#)
cor 8h,8,win (2,#)
cor 7,win (1,#)
cor 9,4,10,10,9,win (5,#)
cor
Left the table in the middle of a winning hand

The random walk (time series) for the 7

For 41 rolls you were winning the challenge (20%)

Almost 2/3rds of the rolls were ahead of expectation (vs. 1/6)

The streaks (runs) of the 7
2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,3,1,1 =14
1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1 =16
Total streaks:30
(ev: 28.36 [=p^2+(p*q*trials)])

Length: Freq
1: 22
ev: 23.657407
2: 7
ev: 3.923611
3: 1
ev: 0.650720
4+: 0
ev: 0.129372
Too many repeating 7s, but your already knew that

Good Luck and
See you at the Craps tables

winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)

nickolay411

nickolay411

Threads: 13
Posts: 283

Joined: Sep 7, 2011

March 12th, 2013 at 3:09:13 PM permalink

7Craps,

Thanks for taking the time to do the results. These are helpful.

SOOPOO

SOOPOO

Threads: 123
Posts: 11528

Joined: Aug 8, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 3:23:04 PM permalink

My summary of the event. First of all, Nickolay is a great guy. And Aaron is a most hospitable host. Present were me, Nickolay, Aaron, his 'girl' Kelly, teddys, teddys sojourning law school buddy, tupp, tupp's camaraman friend, and Harley. Nickolay started strong, with only a couple of sevens in the first 20 rolls or so. But it was all downhill from there, as he hit 7 number 31, which ended the bet, I think on the 152nd roll. He had so many sevens from rolls 20 through 152 that if just random there was only a few percent chance of that many sevens occuring during that span. Interestingly, had the variance gone the other way, he would have crushed the needed number to win. Of note, Harley congratulated Nickolay on his throws, which to the naked eye looked relatively reproducable, occassionally with dice not travelling that far from their initial contact point on the felt. As I expected, there was not a single roll that to me looked like any 'influence' was imparted.
Next Aaron took the wiz up on his bet of not rolling any 7's in a 7 roll cycle. Aaron failed the first two cycles, rolling 2 7's each time. Aaron then rolled 14 consecutive no 7's, to win $2 from the Wizard. So Araon rolled 4 7's in 28 tries, then retired... Harley had claimed he could roll 0 7's in 15 rolls. He was not willing to put any money on it, so I lost some interest, but was willing to watch. When harley started to place the dice down on the felt instead of actually rolling them, I became even less interested. He was saying that was a legal roll in Nevada, at which point I told him I couldn't give a f... if it was legal, and that these challenges were always by my rules, not Nevadas. My rules have always been simple... toss the dice in the air from a place where you would be allowed to toss on a real table, dice hit felt, and back wall. Harley kept placing the dice down and making some counting motion, despite the fact that nobady present cared a hoot about what he was doing. I was hoping a "DI" would have been willing to actually be tested, but alas, it was just hot air being blown. When the masked man (yes, he was wearing a mask to keep his identity a secret) earlier had said he doesn't always make his money from craps, that he sometimes uses "stop loss limits" and "Martingale like" systems to make money at double zero roulette, well, his credibility was at zero before it started decreasing.... At least he seemed like a friendly guy, and he did apologize after for the 'stunt'.

And by the way, Nickolay and I were at a table later that day with 4 'yo's in a row. We cleaned up. (Actually $20 each as we had won 4 come bets in a row for $5 each)

tupp has paid me the money he owes Buzz, and I will funnel it through Mike to Buzz....
Nickolay has paid me, too.... So I think all bets have been paid....

edit-- apparently sodawater had made a bet..... he should just pm Nickolay and it will get taken care of....

EvenBob

Threads: 442
Posts: 29660

Joined: Jul 18, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 3:34:25 PM permalink

Quote: SOOPOO

When the masked man (yes, he was wearing a mask to keep his identity a secret) .

Wait, Harley was wearing a mask and refused
to throw the dice? Was it a Zorro mask, or Nixon?
Was it a clown mask, maybe?

Tell me you're making this up..

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 3:37:43 PM permalink

I had a really fun time, and as I hope everyone knows that is my primary objective, which I was pretty sure would be accomplished.

Technically, The Wizard was LUCKY he won the first time because I took the Wizard's advice: I had a good bet by the last roll, and I took my chances as I imagine the Wizard would have done and I got unlucky.

On the second roll, SOOPOO was playing the stick man and interfering with my flow! I missed counting a 4-2 and that led to all kinds of goofy crap looking at cameras and trying to figure out WTF was going on. By the time I lost that one, I was at least happy I didn't have to do the work to figure out if I forgot to roll one or not.

The last 14 rolls were clean, and I was happy to win just the $2 and I felt like a winner.

I think we should do another event, but I'm not sure what the focus should be next time. I think it would be great if we could get a very well known shooter to subject themselves to the microscope of a live broadcast.

It's not an easy thing to do!

aahigh.com

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 3:59:56 PM permalink

SOOPOO URGENT

Please give that $100 to ahigh with instructions that he give it to his two kids. NO, not for a college fund. Have his "woman" take the
kids to Toys R Us and spend it all on whatever they want. Not what Mom thinks they should buy, but whatever the hell they want.

If you can't have fun as a kid, when can you ? Ok to tell them it's a gift from UNCLE TUPP LOL

My only regret is that I was not there. Maybe next time ?

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

TropicalElectri

TropicalElectri

Threads: 4
Posts: 37

Joined: Sep 10, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 4:02:53 PM permalink

I have been lurking around these posts for a few months. I was even able to watch some of the show yesterday.
My craps experience in real life is limited to an iphone app where i havent lost too much fake money.
All I can say is THANK YOU!!! All of you seemed to have so much fun and your hard work has sure given many of us "lurkers" a lot of pleasure as well as a great education in the game of craps.
Please keep up the good work. If my work ever carries me to Vegas, i would love to catch up with some of you for a day.

One Day at a Time

TheWolf713

TheWolf713

Threads: 20
Posts: 315

Joined: Feb 12, 2013

March 12th, 2013 at 4:13:36 PM permalink

I have the upmost respect for everyone who participated in that event yesterday.. Anyone who will put their money where there mouth is, deserves respect.

I hope every DI paid attention to what happened at Ahigh's event yesterday.. These were were all bunch of guys having a good time... All of the DIs played and all loss.. And literally the one guy who said it doesn't work (soopoo) won. This is why most casinos LOVE the DI concept... It makes the smartest guys victims of their biggest asset... Logic.. Nothing more painful then something that has all the physics based properties, yet it cannot be overcome.. Its a painful site to watch a DI go down. They start off with so much intensity, so focused, and then they unwind like badly knitted sweater.... and even after a loss, we get " but you threw alot of 9s!!! " Yeah.... And alot of freakin 7s too
(I mean no disrespect with this, im just pointing out things like this also happen in the casino..)

I know you guys will continue on your quest in the "craps Matrix", but I hope you can honestly step back for a second and try to revisit the perspective of random...(and besides even neo had to return to the matrix, it was inevitable)

"I'm a DO'er and you my friend, are a Don'ter" -Mark Walberg pain and Gain

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 4:23:55 PM permalink

Too often dice setters remind me of upper management in AT&T. As Chief Shop Steward I often descibed their indexes and results as " shooting an arrow into a wall and then drawing a bulls-eye around it "

The same might be said of most dice setters.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

mdh

mdh

Threads: 0
Posts: 169

Joined: Feb 23, 2011

March 12th, 2013 at 4:24:16 PM permalink

Quote: Buzzard
SOOPOO URGENT

Please give that $100 to ahigh with instructions that he give it to his two kids. NO, not for a college fund. Have his "woman" take the
kids to Toys R Us and spend it all on whatever they want. Not what Mom thinks they should buy, but whatever the hell they want.

If you can't have fun as a kid, when can you ? Ok to tell them it's a gift from UNCLE TUPP LOL

My only regret is that I was not there. Maybe next time ?[/q And I thought there was no good in you at all. Boy was I ever wrong. Very nice gesture Buzz.

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 4:29:57 PM permalink

Hey I was a kid once, believe it or not. Took my 2 daughters ages 8 and 6 to dog track once. Let them pick numbers and when
Mary Jo and Melanie hit a $86 quinella, stopped on way home and let them spend it at Toys R Us.

Boy, did I catch hell from their MOM !

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 4:34:04 PM permalink

Hey, Buzz, I'll tell Kelly! I know she'll be delighted and so will the kids!

aahigh.com

Gabes22

Gabes22

Threads: 15
Posts: 1427

Joined: Jul 19, 2011

March 12th, 2013 at 4:35:59 PM permalink

Quote: Buzzard
Hey I was a kid once, believe it or not. Took my 2 daughters ages 8 and 6 to dog track once. Let them pick numbers and when
Mary Jo and Melanie hit a $86 quinella, stopped on way home and let them spend it at Toys R Us.

Boy, did I catch hell from their MOM !

As a kid, whenever my father took a trip to Vegas, he would ask me to give him 10-12 numbers to play in roulette, if my numbers hit he would give me a cut of the winnings.

A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish

mdh

mdh

Threads: 0
Posts: 169

Joined: Feb 23, 2011

March 12th, 2013 at 4:36:26 PM permalink

The wife and I did the same thing after winning 400 on a fourth of july slot years ago. Pretty good feeling.

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 4:37:36 PM permalink

Quote: TheWolf713
All of the DIs played and all loss..

I won $2!!!

The Wizard is going to send me a signed $2 bill to commemorate my win!

I couldn't be happier that it's only $2 as it just drives home the point that I play for fun!

aahigh.com

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 4:37:53 PM permalink

Quote: Ahigh
Hey, Buzz, I'll tell Kelly! I know she'll be delighted and so will the kids!

Just no directions from Kelly Ok No ," gee dear you always wanted this. Or wouldn't this be nice to buy."

You know how Moms are. Just turn the kids loose !

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 4:45:45 PM permalink

Quote: TropicalElectri
I have been lurking around these posts for a few months. I was even able to watch some of the show yesterday.
My craps experience in real life is limited to an iphone app where i havent lost too much fake money.
All I can say is THANK YOU!!! All of you seemed to have so much fun and your hard work has sure given many of us "lurkers" a lot of pleasure as well as a great education in the game of craps.
Please keep up the good work. If my work ever carries me to Vegas, i would love to catch up with some of you for a day.

Thanks for coming out to comment. I appreciate the feedback! I'm always open to meeting folks to play craps. Especially the folks who like betting small amounts and are just looking to have a good time without much pressure or stress.

aahigh.com

Boz

Boz

Threads: 155
Posts: 5701

Joined: Sep 22, 2011

March 12th, 2013 at 5:18:37 PM permalink

OK I have to ask. Who lets a masked man into their house?

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 5:23:45 PM permalink

Doing mid terms so I missed the Masked Man comments.

And Harley is one of the more sane dice setters. Or so I am told. ROFLMAO.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

EvenBob

Threads: 442
Posts: 29660

Joined: Jul 18, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 5:23:49 PM permalink

Quote: Boz
OK I have to ask. Who lets a masked man into their house?

Tonto? Batman?

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 5:40:09 PM permalink

Everyone except Tupp's buddy and Nickolay I have met face-to-face (without a mask) before they showed up to my house.

Kelly has met Harley without a mask on, and they get along fine.

Harley's a fun guy to hang with, and he knows and is familiar with how people are generally very up-front with how they treat his theories and ways of thinking.

I find it all fascinating.

aahigh.com

EvenBob

Threads: 442
Posts: 29660

Joined: Jul 18, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 6:04:53 PM permalink

Quote: Ahigh

I find it all fascinating.

No doubt...

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

petroglyph

petroglyph

Threads: 19
Posts: 3360

Joined: Jan 3, 2013

March 12th, 2013 at 6:50:59 PM permalink

Quote: Boz
OK I have to ask. Who lets a masked man into their house?

j

Just about anybody,,,,,,,,,,,if their holding a gun.

Bruce Wayne's butler? IDK

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 6:51:12 PM permalink

Some people are fascinated easier than others, obviously.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

Harley

Harley

Threads: 5
Posts: 119

Joined: May 13, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 7:09:06 PM permalink

Buzzard -- big props to YOU !!! ... you da man !!

.... my apologies, I thought someone said it was Halloween eve on Sunday instead of daylight saving time day .... I couldn't figure out why I was the only one in costume ?!

Big props to Tupp for the really professional job he did directing the show !! .... and I look forward to seeing the additional behind the scenes camera footage !!

I enjoyed meeting all the guys that made the trip .... it was fun ..... and High 5 to nickolay411 for stepping up to the plate when no one else would

Can't thank Kelly and AHigh enough for providing the RFB !!

SOOPOO ... you just don't get it ... after you throw the bones a few times and put in 200 hours of live casino craps table time, I will then take you off my ignore list ... but right now you are in the same neighborhood with FleaStiff

.... that is simply my opinion .... Ciao, Harley ... Link = http://crapsadvantageplayers.blogspot.com/

Buzzard

Threads: 90
Posts: 6814

Joined: Oct 28, 2012

March 12th, 2013 at 7:18:51 PM permalink

" SOOPOO ... you just don't get it ... after you throw the bones a few times and put in 500 hours of live casino craps table time, I will then take you off my ignore list. "

Keep him on the ignore list. It will definitely be better for your wallet.

Who is that masked man ? Someone who never heard Money Talks and Bullshit Walks.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

EvenBob

Threads: 442
Posts: 29660

Joined: Jul 18, 2010

March 12th, 2013 at 7:21:00 PM permalink

Quote: Harley

SOOPOO ... you just don't get it ... after you throw the bones a few times

Should he wear a Batman mask, or does it
work better going as Bill Clinton? I can't
stand it, this stuff you just can't make up..

Harley arriving at Ahigh's private club:

Next time he's going as Barbara Bush:

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

Harley

Harley

Threads: 5
Posts: 119

Joined: May 13, 2012

March 13th, 2013 at 12:04:01 AM permalink

.... that is simply my opinion .... Ciao, Harley ... Link = http://crapsadvantageplayers.blogspot.com/

odiousgambit

odiousgambit

Threads: 327
Posts: 9776

Joined: Nov 9, 2009

March 13th, 2013 at 12:28:46 AM permalink

Quote: SOOPOO
My summary of the event.

Thanks. What exactly was the bet between Buzz and Tupp?

I'd say That Masked Man has removed all doubt now about Harley. Relating those events has been a great service, thank you.

PS: Plus having it recorded. Tune in to the last thing Aaron put up at 19 minutes.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-ahigh-show

the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: �Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!� She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

tupp

tupp

Threads: 3
Posts: 519

Joined: Feb 9, 2012

March 13th, 2013 at 2:24:01 AM permalink

Quote: odiousgambit
What exactly was the bet between Buzz and Tupp?

The bet was for $100, according to the criteria set by SOOPOO and I.

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 6:33:32 AM permalink

I want to step up and defend Harley's position again. Some people might obsess about the fact that SOOPOO isn't a knowledgeable craps player, nor a gambler who is willing to make large enough bets to see how differently the casino behaves when there is big money in play either for himself or for the dealers. People change when big money goes into play!

It may not be obvious to anyone here, but Harley is actually a very modest individual who does in fact not brag about the bet sizes that he makes in public or private.

If you intend to make an income from gambling, the entire scene of gambling sort of morphs from one of passing fancy and entertainment to a scene where the unusual becomes the focus of your attention. And if you begin to bet large enough and for enough events that any edge you might have can turn into a profit, all of a sudden things change dramatically in how the casino reacts and treats you.

SOOPOO and I consider each other friends, but we are both very head-strong people. When I was in a position to lose $100 to the Wizard trying to chase a couple of losing events while SOOPOO was interjecting things during my performance instead of helping me to win my bet, I had to take a position with SOOPOO which I had never take before, which was a more dominant position. My money was at stake! I am sure that SOOPOO was less than thrilled about the way that I talked to him, and I'm also sure that he has never had me talk to him that way before.

Similarly, when you're a guy like Harley and you're at the Golden Nugget at 3am and nobody else around and you're betting the passline and the don't passline for three hours writing shit down on paper and then out of the blue you say "Lay the 5 for $966!" Things all of a sudden aren't in a territory that most people here would be familiar with.

Now I didn't witness this happening, and for what it's worth I just made this scenario up! But the point is that when money goes into play out of the blue like this, the casino staff turns into a different animal. One that none of us is all that familiar with and one that Harley is.

Similarly, the way I treated SOOPOO when I stood to lose $1,000 was just the start. Because I would have chased a win against the wizard for $1,000 that I had in my pocket at the time to win $2 because that's the type of player I am. I play for fun, and I'm not trying to rob anyone, but I just want to WIN! Because I like winning.

Harley on the other hand, is making a living. And it's a necessity not a fun thing to do. So he sees a different world.

But my taking control of a table and putting everyone in their place while I win my $2 is a slice of my world, and the dealers at the Silverton will confirm. I will risk thousands of dollars to win a couple of bucks, and if I lose, I don't care. I still had fun. That's the type of player that I am. But at the same time I'm gunning for a meager win risking ridiculous amounts of money, that is exactly when I have the most fun. Most people see me risking $20 to win $10 and think I never bet big, but they just don't see me when I'm chasing. And I love the chase.

But just because you're not familiar with the type of situations that Harley has to deal with, don't disrespect it. Harley is the expert on his method of play: playing for revenue. And it's a different world out there. And a world that I am not successful at, nor even one that I would be willing to undertake. Especially with people who depend on my income for their well being.

So go ahead and poke fun at him, and I do to! But you should respect the fact that Harley is a rare bird who is looking specifically for the anomalies and the underbelly of the business that he can take advantage of. Whether it's the unusual behavior of the dice or the ability for a dealer to spin a wheel a particular way. It's easy to say "you try to exploit double zero roulette wheels every day? You must be kidding!!!"

But guess who else does that? Ever hear of Archie Karas? He plays DOUBLE ZERO ROULETTE WHEEL EVERY DAY TODAY RIGHT NOW and that is ALL THAT HE PLAYS. I know because I talked to the roulette dealer that has to deal with him every day.

So unless you know more about double zero roulette than Archie Karas, don't be too sure that double zero roulette wheel doesn't pay for him or for Harley.

I'm sure Harley has heard it all about playing double zero roulette from the intellectuals.

I'm sure Archie Karas has too.

And yes, they could both be 100% total fools and 100% in denial and fooling nobody including themselves. COULD. Don't consider yourself a genius for coming up with that notion yourself though.

And yet they know things with absolute certainty that the people considered lesser fools do not know.

And therein is the value in their perspectives.

aahigh.com

EvenBob

Threads: 442
Posts: 29660

Joined: Jul 18, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 8:17:09 AM permalink

Quote: Ahigh

And yet they know things with absolute certainty that the people considered lesser fools do not know.
And therein is the value in their perspectives.

Yeah? Like what. Name one thing Harley knows that us
lessor 'fools' don't. You can't because you're just guessing
and assuming. Again. You seem really impressed with
people who talk a good game, but never show it to you.

What did the Masked Avenger show you the other night.
Nothing, from what I heard. Maybe the eye holes in his
Green Lantern outfit were too small. Don't you hate when
that happens?

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

MrV

MrV

Threads: 364
Posts: 8158

Joined: Feb 13, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 8:34:30 AM permalink

Quote: EvenBob

What did the Masked Avenger show you the other night.
Nothing, from what I heard. Maybe the eye holes in his
Green Lantern outfit were too small. Don't you hate when
that happens?

I wonder if the masked man was really Steve Wynn, out slumming for a bit of exicitement?

Did the masked man slice up any paintings, perchance?

Heck, with such a brilliant disguise it could have been anybody.

Or did he arrive in a black Range Rover with a bevy of whores?

If so, it could be he made bail.

What happens in Vegas ...

"What, me worry?"

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 9:22:19 AM permalink

Quote: EvenBob
Yeah? Like what. Name one thing Harley knows that us
lessor 'fools' don't. You can't because you're just guessing
and assuming. Again. You seem really impressed with
people who talk a good game, but never show it to you.

What did the Masked Avenger show you the other night.
Nothing, from what I heard. Maybe the eye holes in his
Green Lantern outfit were too small. Don't you hate when
that happens?

Just for starters, the phrase would be "lesser fools" not lessor. And as your post indicates, you may be able to format a paragraph to allows eyes to glide over the the words more consistently, but your grammar and education are not a highlight of your posts.

To add to my criticism of your response, you are more like Harley than unlike him.

People laugh and ridicule you on a regular basis, and yet I haven't stood up for you yet.

Harley added plenty of drama, and was summarily dismissed by SOOPOO. That's fine by me. SOOPOO is taking the dismissive stance 100% so why would I expect him to waver? Harley takes the conspiracy stance, so why would I expect anything different from him either? You take the adversarial stance, and I would expect nothing less from you either Bob.

But my point in defending Harley is that he does in fact know about things that are not common knowledge.

EvenBob, you are being overtly ignorant, and even basking in your own ignorance.

Mask or no mask, it is more laughable than anything else relating to this topic.

aahigh.com

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 9:24:38 AM permalink

Quote: MrV
I wonder if the masked man was really Steve Wynn, out slumming for a bit of exicitement?

Did the masked man slice up any paintings, perchance?

Heck, with such a brilliant disguise it could have been anybody.

Or did he arrive in a black Range Rover with a bevy of whores?

If so, it could be he made bail.

What happens in Vegas ...

Steve Wynn should be made aware of my claims soon enough. Steve Wynn also has a vision problem. But his employees stealing from him in front of my eyes was something that I thought he would want to know about since he can't see so clearly for himself. I am available to answer any questions to anyone who wants to know. I'm sure the surveillance tapes would verify the theft did in fact occur. I did not name names, but I do know who was on box at the time. The person in question on box is aware that I observed the theft and even made an effort to let me know that he knows I saw what happened.

Steve recently made accusations about a friend of mine recently in a public announcement.

What I am making is an accusation as well: Steve's employees are stealing from Steve. That's a bold statement.

The point that Harley made is that the boxmen share in the tips and there is not enough checks and balances to keep everyone in check.

Mistakes happen on the craps tables! Trust me I am an expert in this subject. Harley sees mistakes frequently too.

Dealer mistakes are the biggest player advantage that exists in Vegas table games.

Fact. So score one for Harley.

aahigh.com

odiousgambit

odiousgambit

Threads: 327
Posts: 9776

Joined: Nov 9, 2009

March 13th, 2013 at 9:27:58 AM permalink

Quote: Ahigh
I want to step up and defend Harley's position again.

Maybe Harley is an OK guy who just got on my list. Once that happened, of course, everything he does just bugs me. So, maybe I should recognize this.

I especially need to get over what seemed like his attempt to stop the betting that took place. I guess I have decided he was just worried, himself, about doing something illegal. He has offered the information that he had been in jail [see link] and a guy like that often needs to really be sure he isn't heading back by violating probation or some similar concern. The rest of us took it as a ridiculous concern, but extremely careful means extremely careful.

I'm a different kind of guy. If something was taking place somewhere that I didn't want to be around, I would stay away. Especially if it was going to look like I was trying to mess it up for everybody. I wouldnt want to try to claim to anybody that was on my ass that it was 'wasn't me wearing that mask', either.

I think it is fair to say he is obsessed about a couple of things beyond my taste for it. But I don't have to read that stuff. I havent blocked him, but that would be easy enough.

So, I hereby vow to just shut up.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13094-next-show-is-the-march-11th-show/3/#post222722

the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: �Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!� She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

Ahigh

Threads: 90
Posts: 5199

Joined: May 19, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 9:31:54 AM permalink

Quote: odiousgambit
Maybe Harley is an OK guy who just got on my list. Once that happened, of course, everything he does just bugs me. So, maybe I should recognize this.

I especially need to get over what seemed like his attempt to stop the betting that took place. I guess I have decided he was just worried, himself, about doing something illegal. He has offered the information that he had been in jail [see link] and a guy like that often needs to really be sure he isn't heading back by violating probation or some similar concern. The rest of us took it as a ridiculous concern, but extremely careful means extremely careful.

I'm a different kind of guy. If something was taking place somewhere that I didn't want to be around, I would stay away. Especially if it was going to look like I was trying to mess it up for everybody. I wouldnt want to try to claim to anybody that was on my ass that it was 'wasn't me wearing that mask', either.

I think it is fair to say he is obsessed about a couple of things beyond my taste for it. But I don't have to read that stuff. I havent blocked him, but that would be easy enough.

So, I hereby vow to just shut up.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13094-next-show-is-the-march-11th-show/3/#post222722

You have to respect everyone for what they have to contribute. Harley is a nice guy. He is a conspiracy theorist. But you have to peel away the layers to see that there is some good stuff he's collecting in that ol' noggin.

I was personally very disappointed Harley didn't perform his controlled shot on camera.

I was disappointed with the antics, and I verbalized as much. But Harley added a lot of drama, and it was entertaining.

aahigh.com

superrick

superrick

Threads: 28
Posts: 775

Joined: Jul 14, 2010

March 13th, 2013 at 10:22:48 AM permalink

Quote:

Yeah? Like what. Name one thing Harley knows that us
lessor 'fools' don't. You can't because you're just guessing
and assuming. Again. You seem really impressed with
people who talk a good game, but never show it to you.

What did the Masked Avenger show you the other night.
Nothing, from what I heard. Maybe the eye holes in his
Green Lantern outfit were too small. Don't you hate when
that happens?

I'm not going to read this whole thread to see where your questions came from, but will respond to your first question! He know how to win, he doesn't have a job, and all his income comes off the tables. There is no reason why he should show his face to anybody that was at Ahighs show. So fools play casino game for the fun of it others play to make money. What's your category? Do you play craps one to three times a year when you have a vacation or do you live off the money you make off the tables?

By the way he didn't retire to play craps, he just got fed up with the corporate world and showed up in Vegas, without a income. He lived on the strip for around five years, before I finally talked him into buying a house. During that time he was living in compped rooms.
Like many of us here in Vegas he has his own craps table where he can practice at home and he knows that he is not going to win all the time, nobody can do that, if someone is telling you that on any of these gambling boards you are reading fiction! Without lost limits there would be no professional gamblers.

Some people love to put on a show; others would rather stay in the background and make a living off the casinos.
So why in the world would anybody that does that, want their face posted on the internet for the whole world to see? I was suprised that he even showed up to help out!

Harley has nothing to prove to anybody that post on a board, he is very well known to the DI's that come into Vegas from around the country, if they don't believe in the fiction that is written on some of the craps boards, that love to call players that live in Vegas names, because they can't do the same thing! These name calling fools are back home with their mommy's after they failed in Vegas, even when they had a great fiction writer as their mentor.

Anybody can sit behind a computer and write what ever they want to about someone they don't know or has never met. From what I was told, there were only four craps players at Ahigh's when the show was put on; the rest of the folks that were there didn't even play craps.
Here is a question for everybody, do you even play craps or do you just post to find out what you can about the game? Do you love craps for the math aspect of the game and that is your true love, the math of the game? Personally I get a kick out of reading some of the views on these boards, especially when I read that the best bet on a craps table is the pass-line bet with full odds. That just goes to show you that the poster doesn't play craps, they just go by the math of the game! The so-called free odds were developed to get players to bet the pass-line and to put more money on a losing bet! You might get lucky when playing that way, if everything goes just right. But the math of the game of the game should tell you that it's a bad bet, because most shooter never make their point!

There has been a lot of players that found out the hard way that it just doesn't work and had to leave Vegas because they were playing that way!

I give Ahigh a lot of credit for how he has going about finding out if he can beat the game of craps. All these so-called experts on the game never went as far as he has, I would love to have his set up, but I think my wife would divorce me if I tried to have a set-up like him. Here you have a guy that has spent thousands of dollars trying to prove either way that there are some guys that can become what everybody refers to as a DI.

Is he ever going to prove that there are DI's I doubt it, but you guys all had that free ride that he allowed you to take at his expense watching his free show! I didn't get to see the show, because my modem decided to fail on the one day that I wanted to stream his show!

Most of the so-called experts are only interested in one thing, making money from teaching becoming a DI or what ever you want to call them, because they have all the suckers that read all the fiction out there on the internet, where you have a great fiction writer; writing that he is taking hundreds of thousands of dollars a year off they tables.
BS is all I can say about that one.

In the last few months I think Ahigh has come a long way, where now he is rethinking about what a DI can and can't do.

Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...

EvenBob