How does my game fare?
Quote: AcesAndEightsEven with early surrender against both, I think the game still has a slight edge for the house, since it's 8 decks and H17. This link which you provided shows a 0.06% house edge off the top, not player edge.
I should have clarified that earlier. That BS engine doesn't have an option for resplit aces which reduces the edge by about 0.08% bringing the edge of his game to about 0.02% in the player's favor.
Quote: PopCanQuote: AcesAndEightsEven with early surrender against both, I think the game still has a slight edge for the house, since it's 8 decks and H17. This link which you provided shows a 0.06% house edge off the top, not player edge.
I should have clarified that earlier. That BS engine doesn't have an option for resplit aces which reduces the edge by about 0.08% bringing the edge of his game to about 0.02% in the player's favor.
Ah, right. I was wondering about that actually.
It still seems unlikely that the game has a player edge off the top (by allowing ES against aces). Sure, very few players follow basic strategy so the casino would probably still realize an effective edge. But I feel like the APs would descend on the game from across the nation. Of course, maybe that process has begun as of yesterday :). I notice ShiftyRicky hasn't posted today...
We DO NOT take from the pool, Tilt was right, when we get to $25 we drop a ANTE LAMMER. In which case we have to pay for each one dropped.
Surrender...8D is on any dealer up card you want and has Early Surrender option. (even against A's and Faces); DD is Just plain surrender...against any card.
Lets face guys/gals, most of the BJ playing population doesn't care two craps about BS. I do have every month, AP's coming in to play, we don't sweat it, hat bad :)
As I have said we are very very player friendly. We are mostly a grind joint, but I am working on that. I have opened a High Limit Room, and have convienced the uppers that we need to target better players and retain them. It is a work in progress....
Thanks for all the feedback !!!
oh hi mr casino manager, i am a really good BJ player.
can you direct me to your high limit room so i can take a few black chips to the cage?
Can someone explain the ante to me. Lets say at the game is house backed for a day. House win is $500. 25cent Antes added up
to another $500. Does the House keep 10% for management fees, the State keep 10%, and 80% get returned to the players in some manner.
If I am out to lunch as usual, please give me an example of how it really works. THANKS
Quote: PopCanHouse gets the $500 in Antes and 10% of the $500 win for the day for a total of $550. Of the remaining $450 win, $50 goes to the state and $400 is returned to the players. Although, I'm not sure if the house & state take their percentage out of the shift, daily, monthly, quarterly, etc. win.
Thanks, POP. ( being 71 I don't get to say that often )
Under that scenario if Ricky is paying the ante from the pool, he is Trickier than advertised. One last question, if I may ?
Nonhouse-banked card games means any card game in which the tribe has no
interest in the outcome of the game, including games played in tournament formats and
games in which the tribe collects a fee from the player for participating, and all bets are
placed in a common pool or pot from which all player winnings, prizes and direct costs
are paid. As provided herein, administrative fees may be charged by the tribe against any
common pool in an amount equal to any fee paid the state; provided that the tribe may
seed the pool as it determines necessary from time to time.
Common pool from which all players winnings, prizes, ans direct costs are paid.
What exactly are direct costs? Are dealer's salaries, lights, air conditioning, etc paid from that pool ? Or from the 10% administrative fees ?
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My complaint is not directed at ShiftyRicky. He didn't create the standards there and it looks like he is trying to offer the best game he can given the constraints on his business.
Quote: 98ClubsLook, just discard the ante, and have BlackJack pay 7:5.
Oklahoma law say the casino can not have an interest in moneys lost on the game itself. That's why there is an ante.
The information on the antes explains some of the questions I had. It seemed to me that they were complicated and time consuming, but I suppose there was a higher purpose involved. My 1st night in town I went to Downstream and was able to grind out a small BJ win and a very good poker win(enough to pay for our week long trip). I got a players club card to negate the antes.
The next couple of days I spent at Buffalo Run, just because it was there. I was really shocked to see the early surrender option. This was the first time I ever encountered it. It was enough to make up for the H-17 and then some. I found that the day shift would honor it against Aces, while night shift honored it against anything. Kind of confusing, it was like two different games. The pit and the hosts were friendly and helpful and gave us some minor comps. I got a partial comp on the room also. We thought the food was good and the servers were down home friendly.
The only drawback I encountered was a large number of Dollar - Two Dollar bettors jumping in and out from table to table and generally slowing things to a crawl. I would think higher minimums would curtail this. I did not have any trouble DD on A-6, so the 8-11 DD must mean hard hands only. How these guys pay a 50c cent ante on a $2.00 bet I will never understand
All in all it was a good experience and I would return. I would probably play there alot if I lived closer.
Quote: ShiftyRicky
I forgot to add we have free ante Sun-Fri 12am-4pm.
Well, those are times you would see me, then.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize this was an old thread, responding to a post from months ago, feel free to ignore me completely!!!
Quote: DynamiteI just returned from a trip to Joplin and had the good fortune to visit your casino. I must say I was impressed.
The information on the antes explains some of the questions I had. It seemed to me that they were complicated and time consuming, but I suppose there was a higher purpose involved. My 1st night in town I went to Downstream and was able to grind out a small BJ win and a very good poker win(enough to pay for our week long trip). I got a players club card to negate the antes.
The next couple of days I spent at Buffalo Run, just because it was there. I was really shocked to see the early surrender option. This was the first time I ever encountered it. It was enough to make up for the H-17 and then some. I found that the day shift would honor it against Aces, while night shift honored it against anything. Kind of confusing, it was like two different games. The pit and the hosts were friendly and helpful and gave us some minor comps. I got a partial comp on the room also. We thought the food was good and the servers were down home friendly.
The only drawback I encountered was a large number of Dollar - Two Dollar bettors jumping in and out from table to table and generally slowing things to a crawl. I would think higher minimums would curtail this. I did not have any trouble DD on A-6, so the 8-11 DD must mean hard hands only. How these guys pay a 50c cent ante on a $2.00 bet I will never understand
All in all it was a good experience and I would return. I would probably play there alot if I lived closer.
Thank you for all the kind words and for coming in. I am glad you enjoyed yourself while you were here with us. Hope to see you again some time.
Quote: Mission146Well, those are times you would see me, then.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize this was an old thread, responding to a post from months ago, feel free to ignore me completely!!!
I assume that includes posts on recent threads as well ? LOL
