So what is the edge here...
This is from Easy.Vegas:
When Dealer's Up Card is... ...then Hit until you have at least:
2-3 .......................................................... 13 (edited. Thank you)
4-6 ........................................................... 12
7-A .......................................................... 17
When you have... ...Double down when dealer shows:
9 ....................................... 3-6
10 ..................................... 2-9
11 ...................................... 2-10
Always Split when you have: A-A or 8-8
What is the House Edge?
I can't keep straight what to do with Pairs and with Soft Ace hands, so let us just omit them.
If I'm at a 3:2 game of six decks under the usual Seminole Hard Rock rules.
And how about if I'm at one of those rinky dink lesser Seminole casinos where its 6:5 Hit Soft 17.
A few years ago casinos in the UK were allowed to give a simple strategy which I think suggested
-- standing on 12 or more vs 2-6 (technically you should hit 12 vs 2,3)
-- doubling 9 10 11 and splitting A 2 3 6 7 8 9 against 2-7 (nearly correct)
-- splitting A 8 (nearly correct)
-- standing 17 or more vs 7+, (always hit soft 17).
Sadly casinos don't show this any more, allow any doubles and splits, so Friday night one sees stupid plays.
Please note that you have the 12 and 13 the wrong way round and it's worth splitting all sensible pairs against small dealer cards. Initially ignore the soft doubles as the difference in correct play are very small.
I'm sure someone else has the percentage (I only use infinite deck with UK rules for my analysis) and everyone will probably suggest ignoring the 6/5 tables!
Quote: FleaStiffI don't know if this is Basic Strategy or Adjusted Basic Strategy or what...
This is from Easy.Vegas:
When Dealer's Up Card is... ...then Hit until you have at least:
2-3 .......................................................... 12
4-6 ........................................................... 13
7-A .......................................................... 17
When you have... ...Double down when dealer shows:
9 ....................................... 3-6
10 ..................................... 2-9
11 ...................................... 2-10
Always Split when you have: A-A or 8-8
What is the House Edge?
I can't keep straight what to do with Pairs and with Soft Ace hands, so let us just omit them.
If I'm at a 3:2 game of six decks under the usual Seminole Hard Rock rules.
And how about if I'm at one of those rinky dink lesser Seminole casinos where its 6:5 Hit Soft 17.
Easy.Vegas advises that the player hit until 13 vs 2-3 and hit until 12 vs 4-6.
Using Easy.Vegas' advice and assuming the player doesn't soft double and stands on soft 18, I find that the house edge is worse than basic stategy by 0.0032. The Wizard of Odds blackjack calculator finds for an 8-deck S17 game with double after split, split to 4 hands, no surrender, 3:2 BJ, and resplit aces that the realistic house edge is 0.37642%. So, the Easy.Vegas house edge would be about 0.70%.
Quote: charliepatrickit's worth splitting all sensible pairs against small dealer cards!
I am guessing you dont consider 4-4 or 5-5 sensible pairs. I was always taught never to split anything taht begins with "F" - 4's 5's and facecards? Does anyone have a rule for splitting 4's vs. hitting?
Quote: Scotty71I am guessing you dont consider 4-4 or 5-5 sensible pairs. I was always taught never to split anything taht begins with "F" - 4's 5's and facecards? Does anyone have a rule for splitting 4's vs. hitting?
If you can't double after splitting, don't split 4,4 at all. If you can DAS, split 4,4 only vs. a dealer 5 or 6 (if single-deck also against a dealer 4, but single-deck DAS games are rare).
Quote: FleaStiffI don't know if this is Basic Strategy or Adjusted Basic Strategy or what...
This is from Easy.Vegas:
When Dealer's Up Card is... ...then Hit until you have at least:
2-3 .......................................................... 13 (edited. Thank you)
4-6 ........................................................... 12
7-A .......................................................... 17
When you have... ...Double down when dealer shows:
9 ....................................... 3-6
10 ..................................... 2-9
11 ...................................... 2-10
Always Split when you have: A-A or 8-8
What is the House Edge?
I can't keep straight what to do with Pairs and with Soft Ace hands, so let us just omit them.
Of course you can't because you don't need to, but your WOO strategy card is in your lap, right? Or on the table. I personally also have my reading glasses on.Last edited by: unnamed administrator on Aug 19, 2019
For a simple to remember system it's easier to ignore 4-4s vs 5,6 since the difference isn't great and in other cases it's wrong. Indeed in the UK there used to be a rule forbidding splitting 4s, 5s and pictures, but deregulation removed it.Quote: Scotty71I am guessing you don't consider 4-4 or 5-5 sensible pairs.
By definition any simple strategy is a trade-off, so has wrong plays which can be learnt as exceptions after the simple ideas are known thoroughly. For instance doubling all 9-11 vs 2-7 is an easy rule that doesn't cost much to make the wrong plays (i.e. 9vs2 9vs7).
>>>>What is the House Edge? I can't keep straight what to do with Pairs and with Soft Ace hands, so let us just omit them.
>but your WOO strategy card is in your lap, right?
No, I would never remember to bring it and even if it were in my hand, I would forget to look at it, even if there were any time to.
>I personally also have my reading glasses on.
I usually remember to bring my eyeglasses, but I really can't see with them and couldn't figure out the card fast enough to prevent an occasional homicide from a waiting player or waiting dealers. In non-comp casinos, dealers often chip in to buy me drinks ...they think I don't see that empty bottle of visine hidden in the waitresses cleavage. Or maybe they just don't care if I know the drink is spiked with visine.
