susluss
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August 6th, 2011 at 12:33:56 AM permalink
Just got back from Reno. Went over to Silver Legacy.
Basically has 3 different games of BJ (not counting 6 to 5).
1. Single deck: Dealer hits soft 17. Double on 10 or 11 only. No DAS. No surrender. No Resplit A's.
2. Double deck: Dealer hits soft 17. Double on any first 2 cards. No DAS. No surrender. No Resplit A's.
3. Six deck shoe: Dealer hits soft 17. Double anytime (1st time seeing this). Allow DAS with double anytime. No surrender. I think A's can be resplit.

Question is: Which game has the lowest HE?
FleaStiff
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August 6th, 2011 at 2:27:46 AM permalink
Quote: susluss

Basically has 3 different games of BJ (not counting 6 to 5).
1. Single deck: Dealer hits soft 17. Double on 10 or 11 only. No DAS. No surrender. No Resplit A's.
2. Double deck: Dealer hits soft 17. Double on any first 2 cards. No DAS. No surrender. No Resplit A's.
3. Six deck shoe: Dealer hits soft 17. Double anytime (1st time seeing this). Allow DAS with double anytime. No surrender. I think A's can be resplit.


Well, I guess you use that Blackjack House Edge Calculator at the Wizard of Odds site and figure it out. I am certain that you are correct when you say "not counting 6:5". Any 6:5 game is totally out of the running.

The exact lowest house edge is not necessarily of prime interest to you. Its more a question of do you know the proper basic strategy to use for the game and are you able to apply it properly. A game with a very low house edge that has rules that are too complex for me to remember even when I'm sober is not much use to me, particularly when I'm in a casino and half sloshed to the gills.
odiousgambit
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August 6th, 2011 at 3:48:51 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Well, I guess you use that Blackjack House Edge Calculator at the Wizard of Odds site and figure it out. I am certain that you are correct when you say "not counting 6:5". Any 6:5 game is totally out of the running.

The exact lowest house edge is not necessarily of prime interest to you. Its more a question of do you know the proper basic strategy to use for the game and are you able to apply it properly. A game with a very low house edge that has rules that are too complex for me to remember even when I'm sober is not much use to me, particularly when I'm in a casino and half sloshed to the gills.



I guess you use that Blackjack House Edge Calculator at the Wizard of Odds site . I have that handy, so here it is.

also you have to figure the value of a low table minimum IMO
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August 6th, 2011 at 4:18:52 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

also you have to figure the value of a low table minimum

Oh yes, of course. How could I have forgotten that! It is well known that most of the Vegas High Roller Rooms are the locations of the ultra-low house edge Blackjack games. I so forget that because I'm simply not High Roller material and no sensible casino would even let me cast a shadow in the high roller room.

A super low edge game at 100 dollar minimum play is not a bargain for the player who really wants a 20 dollar table at a "decent" house edge. Offering a good set of rules and advertising a low house edge is meaningless if the casino makes the table minimums so high that any player seeking to avail themselves of the low house edge has to be super lucky on his first two bets or he is wiped out.

The super low house edge has to be actual rather than illusory or the game is worthless and its only value to the casino is as an advertising gimmick.
susluss
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August 6th, 2011 at 8:16:44 AM permalink
Thanks for the tips and link.
Went to the link, but the BJ HE calculator does not have option for doubling on any number of cards.
Are there any math wiz that can calculate how much H.E. decreases if one can double on any number of cards anytime?
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