NewGambler
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June 21st, 2011 at 11:35:02 PM permalink
If you use The Wizard's 100% correct basic strategy when playing in a land-based casino, will you win almost every hand? And if you have a choice are conditions more favorable for you at a full table or a table with only one or two other players?
FleaStiff
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June 21st, 2011 at 11:56:15 PM permalink
>If you use The Wizard's 100% correct basic strategy when playing in a land-based casino, will you win almost every hand?
Of course not!!
>And if you have a choice are conditions more favorable for you at a full table or a table with only one or two other players?
Number of players affects hands per hour which means that the casinos edge will relentlessly exert itself against more of your money if you play at a nearly empty table.
odiousgambit
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June 22nd, 2011 at 3:00:52 AM permalink
win almost every hand? it is a secret amongst us smart gamblers that the casinos don't know they have put a game out there that you win almost every hand! be quiet about it! [sorry, couldnt resist, I think maybe you wanted to state this differently?]

Quote: FleaStiff

Number of players affects hands per hour which means that the casinos edge will relentlessly exert itself against more of your money if you play at a nearly empty table.



I am also coming to believe that an empty, or near empty, BJ table has so many hands per hour that a player should only sit an hour or so in order to expect a good shot at meeting a win goal. Unlike craps, the bet is always immediately resolved. It can be deadly.

I did come across a WoO webpage that attempts to answer such questions, but it is not good for BJ, he says. I'm working on a blog post about sessions too.
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FleaStiff
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June 22nd, 2011 at 4:20:50 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I am also coming to believe that an empty, or near empty, BJ table has so many hands per hour that a player should only sit an hour or so in order to expect a good shot at meeting a win goal. Unlike craps, the bet is always immediately resolved. It can be deadly.


I believe its 210 hands per hour at an otherwise empty table which is three times what a five person table is estimated to be. A five person table is also the 70 hands per hour that most places use for a comp rate. So perhaps one can look at it as one hours play at an empty table is equivalent to three hours play at a fairly crowded one, but the casino will still only record you as having played for one hour.
DJTeddyBear
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June 22nd, 2011 at 5:21:15 AM permalink
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How often does perfect strategy result in a win?

Not enough to overcome the house edge.

Combine perfect strategy with card counting, then you can overcome the edge - but just slightly.


Knowing and practicing perfect strategy simply reduces the number of mistakes that are made.
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June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25:54 AM permalink
Nareed's 17th Law:

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18) Be wary of offering solicited advice. Add disclaimers if you do, and remind the person asking for advice that the best bets are those least likely to lose.

Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
odiousgambit
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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:24:21 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Nareed's 17th Law:

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18) Be wary of offering solicited advice. Add disclaimers if you do, and remind the person asking for advice that the best bets are those least likely to lose.



wait a minute, that's your 18th law!

are you saying we should not have responded to this post?
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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:41:59 AM permalink
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wait a minute, that's your 18th law!

You have to pay closer attention.

Unless I'm mistaken, like the floor numbers in a high rise, he skipped #13.
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Nareed
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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:44:20 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

wait a minute, that's your 18th law!



No, that's the 17th Law. Here's the blog post with the full list:

Nareed's Laws of Vegas

Pay particular attention to the 12th Law.

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are you saying we should not have responded to this post?



Only if you don't want to.
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benbakdoff
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June 22nd, 2011 at 1:22:01 PM permalink
Quote: NewGambler

If you use The Wizard's 100% correct basic strategy when playing in a land-based casino, will you win almost every hand? And if you have a choice are conditions more favorable for you at a full table or a table with only one or two other players?



You will win slightly over 43% of all hands played, lose about 48% and push about 9%. I rounded these numbers but they are very close. Your odds of winning are exactly the same regardless of the amount of players.

Before anyone asks, "bad players" do not affect you in the long run, in fact that "bad player" may just be a card counter.

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