Betting 5 Hands Simultaneously in Vegas

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but am a big fan of the Wizard.

I've been told by a blackjack expert that I might have a difficult time betting 5 hands simulatenously for low stakes, even in Las Vegas. I do not count cards, but what I like to do is play 5 hands simultaneously early on in the shoe. With that being said, are there any casinos that would allow me to sit at a table and do this until any other players walked up and wished to sit down and play? If so, which casinos might be more amenable than others? Shall I e-mail them ahead of time to ask; I am planning to fly in this Sunday. I know in Missouri the limit is 3 hands at a time, but for the love of God tell me that Las Vegas doesn't have the same stiffling conditions for low stakes players!

If I cannot sit and consistently play 5 hands simultaneously at a table, is it possible a casino would allow me to play 5 hands simultaneously for just the first round, play out that round, and then leave the table? (I would probably be betting $25 per hand for a total of $125 for the round.). If I did this, they would know for sure I am not a card counter because I am just playing the first round and then leaving. Or would this prove to be annonying to the casino because the dealer would have to shuffle after dealing out only 1 round to me?

Thank you in advance,
Steven

Quote: StevenBlack

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but am a big fan of the Wizard.

I've been told by a blackjack expert that I might have a difficult time betting 5 hands simulatenously for low stakes, even in Las Vegas. I do not count cards, but what I like to do is play 5 hands simultaneously early on in the shoe. With that being said, are there any casinos that would allow me to sit at a table and do this until any other players walked up and wished to sit down and play? If so, which casinos might be more amenable than others? Shall I e-mail them ahead of time to ask; I am planning to fly in this Sunday. I know in Missouri the limit is 3 hands at a time, but for the love of God tell me that Las Vegas doesn't have the same stiffling conditions for low stakes players!

If I cannot sit and consistently play 5 hands simultaneously at a table, is it possible a casino would allow me to play 5 hands simultaneously for just the first round, play out that round, and then leave the table? (I would probably be betting $25 per hand for a total of $125 for the round.). If I did this, they would know for sure I am not a card counter because I am just playing the first round and then leaving. Or would this prove to be annonying to the casino because the dealer would have to shuffle after dealing out only 1 round to me?

Thank you in advance,
Steven

I think your only real chance would be to go at 5-6 AM and hope for the best. $5 shoe-dealt games are getting hard to find. One player playing all spots on what might be the only $5 table will not be looked on kindly by management as it keeps other players away, players that may bump to $10-15+. But in a deserted casino early in the AM (and I mean 5-7:30 AM or so) and an empty table a bored dealer and pit boss may say,m "why not?"

I would not over-worry about being caught as a counter for such low stakes.

Quote: AZDuffman

I think your only real chance would be to go at 5-6 AM and hope for the best. $5 shoe-dealt games are getting hard to find. ....

Well, I guess there is the issue of defining "low stakes". He did say that he would be playing $25 per hand for multiple hands. I think it should be possible to find a table available for that kind of play several places on the strip without restricting him to 5-6 AM.

Does it have to be a shoe game? I doubt anyone would mind if you did this on a hand-dealt double-deck game, and that would solve the problem of you leaving 1 hand into the shoe.

If you're willing to bet quarters, I would think most low-end casinos would welcome your action if you wanted to play 5 hands on a $5 or $10 table. I think that if I were you, I'd try this at one of the larger "locals" casinos. Somewhere big enough to have a pit open early in the morning, and remote enough to have open tables in that pit. Maybe one of the Station casinos?

I'm surprised this is even an issue when betting the min level to be rated. If there is any empty table, just sit down and ask to speak to the pit boss. Tell him your level of action and if you can make the table private for now. Early am, I don't see anyone complaining. If it's busy, you can forget it. I also assume your buy-in is going to be quite large to support playing a quarter per hand for 5 hands. $125 action X 40 = $5000. Is that fair?? If I was the pit boss, I'd let you do it. Might even give you a buffet comp too.

Quote: Asswhoopermcdaddy

I also assume your buy-in is going to be quite large to support playing a quarter per hand for 5 hands. $125 action X 40 = $5000. Is that fair?? If I was the pit boss, I'd let you do it. Might even give you a buffet comp too.

Well out of my league here... For that money I'd call or email a host beforehand to arrange it. A smaller casino, as has been said like a local's place or something Downtown, seems a reasonable choice.