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mkl654321
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January 16th, 2011 at 11:39:32 AM permalink
Obviously, the average player makes Basic Strategy blunders routinely and repeatedly--but some mistakes are more prevalent than others. For instance, hardly anybody hits a soft 18 under ANY circumstances. Many players will hit a hard 16 against a 10 but will stand on that hand against a 7--which thinking is exactly backwards. Also, many players don't soft double or split 22, 33, 77, etc.

Ignoring the really dumb errors you see like hitting a hard 14 against a 6 or standing on 15 vs. a 10, what mistake do you see most when you're playing?
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clarkacal
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January 16th, 2011 at 11:48:55 AM permalink
Not only do most players not hit a soft 18, many grumble and complain when you do.
benbakdoff
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January 16th, 2011 at 1:15:34 PM permalink
With the exception of doubling 10 vs 10 I see these mistakes every time I play and it doesn't take very long. Here's a couple more: Not doubling A7 when appropriate and not using or misusing surrender when available.
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January 16th, 2011 at 2:48:28 PM permalink
Quote: benbakdoff

With the exception of doubling 10 vs 10 I see these mistakes every time I play and it doesn't take very long. Here's a couple more: Not doubling A7 when appropriate and not using or misusing surrender when available.

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I see most of these when Im at work.
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rdw4potus
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January 16th, 2011 at 6:03:07 PM permalink
not hitting/doubling A7 is very high on my list. So is not hitting 12 against a 2 or 3.
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bbvk05
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January 16th, 2011 at 7:35:01 PM permalink
My order based purely on observation in the Phoenix area:
1. Not hitting soft 18 against a 9,10,A
2. Not doubling a soft 17 and 18 when appropriate
3. Not soft doubling generally
4. Not doubling an 11 against a 10, A (when dealer hits soft 17)
5. Not doubling a 9 against 3, 4, 5, 6
6. Not splitting 99 against everything but a 7, 10, A.

Perhaps these are just the errors that bother me the most. Tops is soft 18 against a 9, 10, A though- it is like people think they have a good hand at 18.
Ibeatyouraces
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January 21st, 2011 at 10:47:06 AM permalink
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January 21st, 2011 at 11:02:19 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I get dealers tell me that surrender is a bad rule for the players and a good rule for the house.

If it was really a good rule for the house more (all?) casinos would offer it.
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AZDuffman
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January 21st, 2011 at 11:08:11 AM permalink
I would say not knowing how to handle a dealer 2 or 3 upcard.

Not knowing about surrender is also a biggie. Saved me quite a bit at my last visit. I'd wager just under half of players know about surrender and of that number half consider it throwing money away.
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mkl654321
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January 21st, 2011 at 11:13:43 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

If it was really a good rule for the house more (all?) casinos would offer it.



It's a good rule for the player because there are situations where a player can gain EV by using the surrender option. Whether or not any given group of players uses or misuses that option isn't relevant.

I think that most casinos don't offer it because most unskilled players would never even consider it. Giving up half your bet to save the other half goes against the grain of most recreational players. They would definitely NEVER surrender again if they found out that underneath that scary 10, the dealer had a 6, and then the dealer busted and paid everybody except that guy who surrendered.
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