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April 17th, 2024 at 1:29:23 AM permalink
I was wondering if I was playing this right
In a casino I play at there is no hole card but if you double/split and the dealer hits a blackjack you only lose your original bet. (Even if you split/double multiple times)

Dealer stands on soft17

I play the basic strategy the same as if it peeked except I double down on 11 and 10 vs dealer ace.

Am I doing it right? Is there a calculator available with this level of detail?
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April 17th, 2024 at 7:29:02 AM permalink
Quote: jpmurga

I was wondering if I was playing this right
In a casino I play at there is no hole card but if you double/split and the dealer hits a blackjack you only lose your original bet. (Even if you split/double multiple times)

Dealer stands on soft17

I play the basic strategy the same as if it peeked except I double down on 11 and 10 vs dealer ace.

Am I doing it right? Is there a calculator available with this level of detail?
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The strategy for the game you are playing is the same strategy as for regular S17 with dealer hole card.

Here are the Wizard's strategy charts: https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

You can see on the chart that you should not double down 11 vs ace or 10 vs ace as basic strategy.

By the way, in Atlantic City before peeking devices were installed in the tables, the dealer would not peek. We would play our hands as normal and then if the dealer had blackjack we would lose only our original bet even if the split hands busted.
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April 17th, 2024 at 8:01:01 AM permalink
It is impossible to have a late surrender rule for a no-hole card game.
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April 17th, 2024 at 8:50:23 AM permalink
Quote: aceside

It is impossible to have a late surrender rule for a no-hole card game.
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Not if there is some way to indicate a surrendered hand (if the dealer gets BJ the whole bet is lost, otherwise only half is lost).
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April 17th, 2024 at 9:58:50 AM permalink
Thanks for the help

We have early surrender only for a face card not an ace
But that doesnt change what to do (except you surrender on more hands)
After analyzing I agree not to double 11 vs A
Wizards calculator puts the difference at 0.018 (1.8%) But it might change what you do with 11 vs 10

Using the wizardís hand calculator it does say to double so I see a contradiction there
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April 17th, 2024 at 10:17:21 AM permalink
There is no contradiction here, regarding doubling down 11 vs 10. Wizardís online blackjack calculator of the no-peek blackjack applies only to ENHC, which is slightly different from yours.
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April 17th, 2024 at 11:43:40 AM permalink
This is the correct link to the Basic Strategy for this No Hole Card BJ game.

European No Hole Card Strategy

As is shown in this link, you should not double a Ten or Ace vs a Dealer Ten or Ace. This is because your odds of losing are higher because Dealer may have a BJ in addition to the other possible outcomes.
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