to me, a person who cheats to win - or who even just demonstrates how it's done, has no self respect or dignity
I guess they justify it by saying to themselves "everybody cheats"
doesn't work for me
I'd rather lose than cheat to win
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This next video is about past posting which is illegal. It could have been done back in the day say 4 decades ago back when the underworld ran the casinos and surveillance cameras were crap. But it takes skill, so what is that skill? Here's what not to do, which is past posting.
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to me, a person who cheats to win - or who even just demonstrates how it's done, has no self respect or dignity
I guess they justify it by saying to themselves "everybody cheats"
doesn't work for me
I'd rather lose than cheat to win
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You think people who just demonstrate cheating have no self-respect or dignity? Like magicians and performers?
Saying "everybody cheats" is not the justification. They do it to make money. That's the justification.
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You think people who just demonstrate cheating have no self-respect or dignity? Like magicians and performers?
Saying "everybody cheats" is not the justification. They do it to make money. That's the justification.
of course, their goal is to make money - that's not a justification
"A person who purposely or knowingly commits fraud while attempting to win money at the casino can be charged with a criminal offense for cheating and swindling."
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a person who does things that are morally reprehensible will have in their mind a justification for why it was okay for them to do this
I believe one of the most common justifications is to say "everybody cheats" - that is what they will claim makes it okay for them to cheat when they have to explain it to their family if and when they are charged with a crime - or if for example their wife finds about it and is not accepting of it
magicians and performers are not even remotely similar to a person showing potential cheats how to switch decks at a blackjack table
a terrible analogy
imo a person who tried this very easy to spot cheating move shown in the vid with cameras everywhere in a casino including outside is a total moron
dropping something behind the table to make a loud noise and distract the pit boss - what a joke
I've spent thousands of hours at bj tables - if I was a PB I would have spotted this even if I came to work stoned out of my mind
https://www.johntumeltycriminaldefense.com/blog/cheating-casinos-criminal-charges/#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20type%20of,offense%20for%20cheating%20and%20swindling.
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magicians and performers are not even remotely similar to a person showing potential cheats how to switch decks at a blackjack table
a terrible analogy
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But there are magicians whose entire schtick is cheating techniques, including mucking cards and switching decks...
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magicians and performers are not even remotely similar to a person showing potential cheats how to switch decks at a blackjack table
a terrible analogy
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But there are magicians whose entire schtick is cheating techniques, including mucking cards and switching decks...
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I'm not really familiar with such magicians
but I would guess that their goal is to entertain
not to educate potential cheats on how to cheat a casino or their friends at a poker game
instructing very foolish and morally bankrupt people on how to swindle a casino with a terrible cheating move seems to have been the goal of the maker of the vid
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I'm not really familiar with such magicians
but I would guess that their goal is to entertain
not to educate potential cheats on how to cheat a casino or their friends at a poker game
instructing very foolish and morally bankrupt people on how to swindle a casino with a terrible cheating move seems to have been the goal of the maker of the vid
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My reason for watching these sorts of videos isn't to learn how to cheat. I do like to know how the cheats are performed. I like to make darn sure that my square play has little or nothing in common with a 'move'. I want any accusation of cheating to be obviously laughable on review.
For example, that means when I'm placing chips on the spot to wager, my hand isn't obscuring the chips from The Eye - thumb/finger grip on the edges and my hand doesn't cross over any chips in play, so it's clear I'm not mucking, pinching, or capping.