Dobrij
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March 29th, 2023 at 1:08:03 PM permalink
Sorry for the typo in the title, I can't fix it now : )

Hi all!
I understand that this has already been discussed, but I almost never played blackjack, so I have no personal experience. And soon I'm going to a casino with good junket conditions where we will play European blackjack against a shuffle machine (~ -0,45%).

I want to ask the opinion of the forum, what is the betting system(without card counting) performed well over short distances?

It feels like three boxes to me and the increase after winning seems successful, but I did not come up with the exact tactics. Maybe someone can give advice, or has simulation calculations or graphs? I'm interested in calculating the probabilities of streaks over a distance 300-1000-3000-10000 hand for 1-2-3-4 hand; I could pay for the calculations, or share useful information in return
ChumpChange
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March 29th, 2023 at 2:03:42 PM permalink
Probably 13-15 wins or losses in a row max for 1 hand play over 1K-10K hands. But 99% of your streaks are going to be 6 or less. Since the Player only wins 40%-45% of the time, the Dealer will have more wins in the win column and that could add up to several hundred extra wins for the Dealer over 5K hands. I like a 3,4,5,6,8,10X progression ($15, $20, $25, $30, $40, $50 and just leave it at $50, or something else which I don't want to get into on the forum.) Remember, the cards are kind of like dice and they will let you down hard at your highest bets.
billryan
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March 29th, 2023 at 2:07:40 PM permalink
The less you expose to the house edge, the better your results will be.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
ChumpChange
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Thanks for this post from:
Dobrij
March 30th, 2023 at 11:40:29 AM permalink
If I buy-in for 25 units (ex. $15 x 25 = $375) for 1 player, I'll double it for 2 players ($750), and triple it for 3 players ($1,125). As for progressions, just raise on the winning hand, stay the same on a push, and go back to the minimum bet of the progression on a losing hand. I'd probably have a session stack in front of each betting spot, and not co-mingle the chips. I don't double advance on the progression if I win a double down or better.
Some casinos require double the table minimum to play 2 spots, and 3X or 5X the table minimum to play 3 spots. So the table minimum would be $30 per spot for 2 spots (instead of $15), and $45 or $75 per spot for 3 spots. Since table minimums are typically $25 or $50 anyway, you can add up your green chip minimum bets that way.
Dobrij
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March 30th, 2023 at 9:52:50 PM permalink
Thanks for answers!

If someone has a simulator, I could pay for the calculations to look at the probabilities and waves of the graph of possible outcomes
Ace2
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March 30th, 2023 at 10:04:10 PM permalink
Use 0.43 chance of winning 1.31 to 1, which is statistically similar to a BJ game with 0.67% edge
Itís all about making that GTA
ChumpChange
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March 31st, 2023 at 1:21:48 AM permalink
I lost $1,000 (25 unit buy-in) in 111 hands, on the 3rd shoe.



Casino Vérité Blackjack V5.6 is available as a demo download at https://www.qfit.com/downloads.htm
Dobrij
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March 31st, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I lost $1,000 (25 unit buy-in) in 111 hands, on the 3rd shoe.

Casino Vérité Blackjack V5.6 is available as a demo download at https://www.qfit.com/downloads.htm
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Thank you! An interesting program, it will be necessary to install one too.

If it's not difficult, please explain me, is this a calculation for one box with an initial bet of $30? How is formed logic to the bet size?
ChumpChange
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March 31st, 2023 at 10:18:51 AM permalink
$30 is my minimum bet for my session buy-in. I start at a higher bet but as I lose, I lower my bet. I use the progression I mentioned earlier but for different starting bet amounts as I scale down, or up. It's possible I could have won from my $1,000 buy-in up to $10,000+ in less than 150 hands. But sometimes these sessions get long and I'll try to cash out at least $1,000 ahead after 400 hands have been played in a session. I've had some sessions go as long as 2500 hands. But the extreme downswings I've been experiencing lately on this game suggests I should lock up my wins before I go broke.
LESLOSACKETT
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March 31st, 2023 at 10:43:14 AM permalink
LOCK UP MY WINS A common lament. Should of quit at whatever was my highest amount, for example 5X. But how the hell do you determine that? versus 4X or 3X. Hindsight is always 20/20 !

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