BrotherMouzone
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June 28th, 2021 at 8:20:29 PM permalink
Hey - I'm a beginner-level card counter looking to take up counting purely as a part-time, recreational exercise. Will be in both Las Vegas and Atlantic City multiple times this year and would like to test my skills in some low-limit, "softer" games. Any suggestions on casinos in Vegas and AC to try out? I've read that in Vegas the El Cortez game might be the softest to try out? Any others?

In Atlantic City I've read that "beatable" games at the Borgata might be as low as $10/$15 minimum? Any other casinos in AC?

Thanks for any recommendations and any other tips others might have!!!
Romes
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June 30th, 2021 at 2:21:38 PM permalink
lol not sure if you misread something or not, but the El Cortez is known to be the sweatiest game alive. Basically, it's where you go to practice getting flat bet or backed off quickly. They sure do have fantastic rules on short deck games, but the first time you bet $25 after betting $5 you'll get the stink eye, counted down, etc, etc, etc.

If your goal is entertainment, then find any 3:2 game for as cheap as possible and try to make a break even, or better yet slightly positive to account for simple mistakes, spread and go for some comps and real time casino experience. As far as vegas goes, last time I was there (like 2 years ago now - maybe a local can chime in) downtown was still the best "cheap" place to gamble with some 3:2 games.

If you're ever going to take this to a non recreational level, it's not worth burning your name/face with the $10/hour that can be made with a $5-$50 spread. In that case I'd say to read more, practice more, get tested out by a known accomplished counter, and then get a bankroll to make real damage, like $100/hr minimum.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Mission146
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June 30th, 2021 at 2:34:50 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

lol not sure if you misread something or not, but the El Cortez is known to be the sweatiest game alive. Basically, it's where you go to practice getting flat bet or backed off quickly. They sure do have fantastic rules on short deck games, but the first time you bet $25 after betting $5 you'll get the stink eye, counted down, etc, etc, etc.

If your goal is entertainment, then find any 3:2 game for as cheap as possible and try to make a break even, or better yet slightly positive to account for simple mistakes, spread and go for some comps and real time casino experience. As far as vegas goes, last time I was there (like 2 years ago now - maybe a local can chime in) downtown was still the best "cheap" place to gamble with some 3:2 games.

If you're ever going to take this to a non recreational level, it's not worth burning your name/face with the $10/hour that can be made with a $5-$50 spread. In that case I'd say to read more, practice more, get tested out by a known accomplished counter, and then get a bankroll to make real damage, like $100/hr minimum.



I just want to say that it's nice to see you back and seriously teeing off in multiple threads!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Romes
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July 6th, 2021 at 1:04:06 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I just want to say that it's nice to see you back and seriously teeing off in multiple threads!

Ha, much appreciated. I come and go so no promises, but enjoy posting in real threads with real people and real questions for conversation/discussion.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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July 7th, 2021 at 8:25:07 AM permalink
You are chasing your tail playing shoes with HiLo. Focus on DD 3.2 games with at least 60% pen. Develop at least a level 2 strategy. If you cant go back and forth between one and two hands then you are playing a game of thresholds. Not advantage.

Compete with more of your mind than your money.
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