DocSpaulding
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:34:12 PM permalink
Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet \$50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.
Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

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June 16th, 2021 at 1:37:00 PM permalink
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Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet \$50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.
Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

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I think you will get a lot of players if you are putting up the bankroll.
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DocSpaulding
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:39:14 PM permalink
Haha unfortunately I am not Bill Gates. But i was going to suggest opening a line of credit, known as a marker, for whichever casino has the best rules and the group/team wants to play at
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:45:28 PM permalink
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Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet \$50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.
Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

If interested, comment below and we can exchange contact info privately

I think you're forgetting that the wins and losses are going to be highly correlated by the fact that you're playing against the same dealer, so I'm not certain that your (.51^8)/6 strictly applies.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:48:31 PM permalink
Because it's the same dealer/table that's how it does apply. If it were from different shoes it would be. But unlike roulette, blackjack isn't independent events. The cards that have been played influence which cares are left in the deck, thus the premise for card counting.
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June 16th, 2021 at 2:20:28 PM permalink
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Because it's the same dealer/table that's how it does apply. If it were from different shoes it would be. But unlike roulette, blackjack isn't independent events. The cards that have been played influence which cares are left in the deck, thus the premise for card counting.

Are you counting cards while you do that? If so, my apologies, as I misunderstood your initial post.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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June 16th, 2021 at 2:28:25 PM permalink
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Are you counting cards while you do that? If so, my apologies, as I misunderstood your initial post.

Technically yes i am. but my/our play wouldn't resemble that
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:09:42 PM permalink
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. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet \$50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.

what does \$50 and so on mean? So once 4 put of 6 hands win you leave what if the group is losing by the time that happens?
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:27:54 PM permalink
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what does \$50 and so on mean? So once 4 put of 6 hands win you leave what if the group is losing by the time that happens?

NOpe once 4 out of 6 hands win we go back to the table minimum of 25 and start it over again until the cut card comes out. Because I fear after 1 shoe, the casino will program the auto shuffler to 'randomly' have the dealer win 8 hands in a row and screw us over.
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:32:54 PM permalink
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NOpe once 4 out of 6 hands win we go back to the table minimum of 25 and start it over again until the cut card comes out. Because I fear after 1 shoe, the casino will program the auto shuffler to 'randomly' have the dealer win 8 hands in a row and screw us over.

Oh so this is a martingale 25,50,100,200 etc.. so after 8 losses you would need to bet 6400 and the max is only 5000.
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:38:47 PM permalink
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Oh so this is a martingale 25,50,100,200 etc.. so after 8 losses you would need to bet 6400 and the max is only 5000.

If this is correct, then with all possible respect to the OP, this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard of and I stand by what I expressed in my first post in this thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:57:06 PM permalink
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If this is correct, then with all possible respect to the OP, this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard of and I stand by what I expressed in my first post in this thread.

The only playing being done here, is to the forum.

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June 20th, 2021 at 1:46:48 AM permalink
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NOpe once 4 out of 6 hands win we go back to the table minimum of 25 and start it over again until the cut card comes out. Because I fear after 1 shoe, the casino will program the auto shuffler to 'randomly' have the dealer win 8 hands in a row and screw us over.

Annnnnnnd a bit too obvious at this point.
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July 27th, 2021 at 9:25:18 AM permalink
Quote: DocSpaulding

Hello there. I’m seeking a group of 6 people who would be interested in meeting in vegas and playing team blackjack at a 25-5000 table which can be found at ceasears, Bellagio, planet Hollywood, mirage, cosmo, and mandalay bay. If 4 or more hands lose, we’d bet \$50 and so on until at least 4 out of 6 hands win. We continue this for 1 shoe and then leave on a table win. After this, we divide the profits evenly.
Based on my calculations we’d get about 16 hands in for 6 players. Playing basic strategy gives us a lose rate of 51 percent. .51^8= 0.45 percent chance of losing the bankroll for one person. This is divided out over 6 people for a 0.076 percent chance of losing the bankroll as a group.

If interested, comment below and we can exchange contact info privately

Wow, what an offer! If I were a little more experienced, I would love to keep company.
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