theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 8:06:29 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

So you're using the streaming to coordinate your attack on the casino by communicating between team members?



As far as the Casino is concerned, I am documenting myself beating their game through the completely legal act of card counting with the intention of both providing content to others and protection for myself against any illegal detention by the Casino. We can beat this dead horse all day long. I also heard you can be beaten up and arrested for card counting..

Thanks for the entertaining video though, I'll try to find the clip from "21" where Morpheus beats up the nerdy kid.
ChumpChange
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March 19th, 2021 at 8:08:17 AM permalink
I've been watching video after video of card counters getting kicked off the tables in 5 minutes flat.

Ben Affleck Kicked Out Of Casino For Card Counting - TYT May 7, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxuHAVIjzY

Casino Trespass For Counting Cards - YouTube
Blackjack Dude - Oct 21, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4C_8cUgim4
Last edited by: ChumpChange on Mar 19, 2021
theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 8:09:58 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I've been watching video after video of card counters getting kicked off the tables in 5 minutes flat.



Yeah..it happens.
theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:12:25 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I've been watching video after video of card counters getting kicked off the tables in 5 minutes flat.

Ben Affleck Kicked Out Of Casino For Card Counting - TYT May 7, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxuHAVIjzY

Casino Trespass For Counting Cards - YouTube
Blackjack Dude - Oct 21, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4C_8cUgim4



Thanks for editing in that last link ChumpChange, that was actually a good watch lol. The guy has another one up, a video of both his playing and the backoff with pretty good clarity, can see the entire table and deck tray. I just subscribed to his channel and going to message him.
ChumpChange
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:40:39 AM permalink
Here's a couple vids from a Blackjack vlogger, somebody with something to say.

Backed off for Card Counting Tonight for the First Time as an Advantage Blackjack Player in Vegas - YouTube
885 Blackjack - Secrets From A Vegas Local
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_q2_c4V7GQ

Las Vegas Blackjack: Scouting Blackjack at South Point, Silverton, Palace Station & Ellis Island - 885 Blackjack - Secrets From A Vegas Local
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3h5XMuiAIo
theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 9:45:20 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Here's a couple vids from a Blackjack vlogger, somebody with something to say.

Backed off for Card Counting Tonight for the First Time as an Advantage Blackjack Player in Vegas - YouTube
885 Blackjack - Secrets From A Vegas Local
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_q2_c4V7GQ

Las Vegas Blackjack: Scouting Blackjack at South Point, Silverton, Palace Station & Ellis Island - 885 Blackjack - Secrets From A Vegas Local
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3h5XMuiAIo



Awesome. Thanks!
theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 11:54:22 AM permalink
On a different note, just spoke with my brother and we decided we are going to take a trip to the beach Easter weekend and go out on the Big M Casino boat in SC. This will officially be my first playing trip in over a year, I dont ever remember being this excited to take a blackjack trip lol. I won't be bothering with the stream (we will be out on the ocean) but I'll let you guys know how it goes. They actually have a great game, 6D S17 LS with really good penetration (less than a deck) and they tolerate a big spread (1-20). If any players on this forum are ever in that area, it's definitely worth the trip.
AxelWolf
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March 19th, 2021 at 12:49:41 PM permalink
Quote: theOmega623

I appreciate that AxelWolf and I agree 100% with what you're saying. My only purpose for a BJ play stream is to make it possible for BJ team members to view each others play, both in real-time and to act as somewhat of an archive. Now their are some obvious problems, like too much playing time to be watched, reliability of the stream, etc that hopefully can be worked out. But I think that having the ability to watch your teammates playing not only allows you to see the level of accuracy they are playing, but it creates a huge incentive for everyone to be honest about their playing time and their results. We all know most teams fail due to a lack of trust, and for good reason. But I'll keep you guys updated and hopefully this first test run will go well, again thanks for the feedback!

If someone needs an incentive to be honest then you have bigger problems. That trust should be there before you ever do anything with that person. What happens when something goes wrong with the stream or it's not practical and now someone has a bad run? Since you were previously relying on the stream you will be suspicious any time something goes wrong.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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March 19th, 2021 at 12:57:58 PM permalink
Quote: theOmega623

On a different note, just spoke with my brother and we decided we are going to take a trip to the beach Easter weekend and go out on the Big M Casino boat in SC. This will officially be my first playing trip in over a year, I dont ever remember being this excited to take a blackjack trip lol. I won't be bothering with the stream (we will be out on the ocean) but I'll let you guys know how it goes. They actually have a great game, 6D S17 LS with really good penetration (less than a deck) and they tolerate a big spread (1-20). If any players on this forum are ever in that area, it's definitely worth the trip.

Sharing TMI publicly might catch you some heat from other Advantage Players. And now that they know what you are up to... Ill let you up the rest together.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
theOmega623
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March 19th, 2021 at 1:09:35 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If someone needs an incentive to be honest then you have bigger problems. That trust should be there before you ever do anything with that person. What happens when something goes wrong with the stream or it's not practical and now someone has a bad run? Since you were previously relying on the stream you will be suspicious any time something goes wrong.



I meant it in the way that there is no incentive to suspect a player may be untrustworthy, each team member would have the ability to watch each others play and results at anytime and do virtual test-outs to show skill level. As far as reliability of the stream, that's one I haven't quite figured out but I'm in no way suggesting that live streaming replace team trust 100%, only to help strengthen it and more importantly be used as a tool to help teams form from a distance.
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