theOmega623
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September 7th, 2020 at 5:40:00 AM permalink
Greetings fellow members! So I've decided I am going to try live streaming all my blackjack play through a small embedded spy cam when I start back playing in a couple months. I have a friend who is pretty good with tech that is coming by to help me set it up in a couple weeks, my goal is to be able to live stream my play very clearly so people viewing can see everything, cards dealt, playing decisions, wins/losses, etc. I also want it to be able to notify certain people when I am playing live so they can choose to view it in real time or later. Would love to know what you guys think or if you have any suggestions!
racquet
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September 7th, 2020 at 6:03:19 AM permalink
Be interesting to see whether or not the casino can detect this, and what will happen when they do. I've heard that one of the reasons that they don't like phone use (beyond the obvious) is that they monitor signals near the table and that it interferes with that. I wonder if that's true and if your broadcasting a signal - video or otherwise - will be found out.

Hopefully we'll be able to see what happens next if they do.

I'm taking the under that this even ever happens.
theOmega623
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September 7th, 2020 at 7:57:09 AM permalink
Quote: racquet

Be interesting to see whether or not the casino can detect this, and what will happen when they do. I've heard that one of the reasons that they don't like phone use (beyond the obvious) is that they monitor signals near the table and that it interferes with that. I wonder if that's true and if your broadcasting a signal - video or otherwise - will be found out.

Hopefully we'll be able to see what happens next if they do.

I'm taking the under that this even ever happens.



Yes I agree, it will also serve as a way to record the entirety of a back off. I am hoping it goes well, there have been several players doing this successfully but I really want to get much better quality then what I've seen so far. I highly doubt they are tracking any kind of signal from the BJ tables as I havent seen or heard any evidence of such a thing..but I guess I'm going to find out!
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September 7th, 2020 at 11:38:44 AM permalink
Quote: theOmega623

Yes I agree, it will also serve as a way to record the entirety of a back off. I am hoping it goes well, there have been several players doing this successfully but I really want to get much better quality then what I've seen so far. I highly doubt they are tracking any kind of signal from the BJ tables as I havent seen or heard any evidence of such a thing..but I guess I'm going to find out!

I suggest you don't do it over the casino's free wifi $:o)
You will almost certainly be breaking casino rules, but more than that, maybe check your legal situation.
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DRich
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September 7th, 2020 at 12:03:23 PM permalink
I hope you agree to do it in Las Vegas. I would like to see what countermeasures the casinos have and if they would pursue felony charges against you for using an electronic device.
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kewlj
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September 7th, 2020 at 1:41:07 PM permalink
Filming and photographs inside a casino may be against a certain casino's policy or rules but it isn't against the law in Las Vegas. Here's a little article stating different "policies" at different casinos.

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/videotaping-slot-play/

Now, the "device law" is different. That is law. But it is about using a device TO CHEAT. A casino is going to have a hard time showing how filming your own play is cheating. BUT...it is one of those situations where it could end up costing you money in lawyer and legal fees to win your case or prove your point.
theOmega623
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September 7th, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Filming and photographs inside a casino may be against a certain casino's policy or rules but it isn't against the law in Las Vegas. Here's a little article stating different "policies" at different casinos.

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/videotaping-slot-play/

Now, the "device law" is different. That is law. But it is about using a device TO CHEAT. A casino is going to have a hard time showing how filming your own play is cheating. BUT...it is one of those situations where it could end up costing you money in lawyer and legal fees to win your case or prove your point.



Thank you Kewlj, this is my understanding as well. It's worth mentioning that on top of this they would have to both physically detain me for card counting and then destroy my clothing to find the embedded spy cam. And yes I will be doing this in Las Vegas, although not at any casino that I have been trespassed or backed off from (there are none).
MJGolf
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September 7th, 2020 at 5:07:10 PM permalink
You guys have probably heard of Slot Lady and her live BJ sessions at El Cortez and The Plaza. Just check out youtube and her channel or videos. You will have the argument to use, that " if they let her do it, why not you?"
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September 7th, 2020 at 7:26:16 PM permalink
Craps being livestreamed on YouTube complete with chat. Started 25 minutes ago. Reserved table with extra cameraman.
Live Craps, May the Dice Gods Be With Us 🎲🙌🏼🐐 - YouTube (Link Deleted)
WMG blocked saving the video on copyright grounds immediately after the stream ended. There was background music which tends to be a no-no.
This was livestreamed from the Plaza Casino. There were two players. They each lost around $500 from what I heard.

Here's a saved livestream that may get deleted as soon as I post this, but I'd blame the algorithms for blocking a video first. But seriously, videos don't last long sometimes after a link gets posted somewhere.
Live Craps $1,000 Buy In. Not Stopping Until the Balance $4,000 Go Big or Go Home 🤷🏻‍♂️ - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNptHC1xvz8
Looks like he had a "host" set him up with a table.
He says he's shooting with a 4K camera, but the saved resolution is 720p. Maybe a 5G phone could make it work at 4K.
Partway in the sound went mute, probably a song had to be silenced.
Last edited by: ChumpChange on Sep 7, 2020
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September 7th, 2020 at 10:23:04 PM permalink
I'm trying to figure out how to win $10K by hitting the 4 or 10 eight times on one shooter, $20K for both numbers, starting with $25 on one number.

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