Quote: beachbumbabs
What I am disputing is the particular method claimed of programming shufflers for systematic cheating. It simply doesn't happen, because it simply doesn't pay the casino or the manufacturer to do it.
This.
There are serious checks and balances in every step in every single regulated jurisdiction - which covers the entire USA. Vendor, GLI (or BMM), gaming commission/regulator, and the end casino. It's truly preposterous to suggest the shuffler software is programmed to cheat in a regulated jurisdiction. It simply isn't possible.
Quote: AxelWolfSure I will, as soon as you can cite where I claimed the shuffle is rigged.
I'm talking in general that casinos cheat and use deceptive predatory practices. There has been enough evidence to establish that's a fact. I know it's happened to me.
Please show me one instance of an employee or former exposing casino policies or procedures that cheat customers. Just one recorded meeting where a GM or Director says that the employees should cheat or do things that cause players to lose at a higher rate than normal. Just one time in the last 25 years.
There are bad individuals in every profession. Bad Dr's, bad lawyers, bad mechanics, bad athletes etc. If a UFC fighter tests positive for HGH, that's cheating. It doesn't make the UFC a cheating organization.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13There are bad individuals in every profession. Bad Dr's, bad lawyers, bad mechanics, bad athletes etc. If a UFC fighter tests positive for HGH, that's cheating. It doesn't make the UFC a cheating organization.
Something that could make UFC a cheating organization is if they ever gave therapeutic use exemptions for anabolics to some fighters who didn't need it to treat true medical conditions.
If a bad individual makes a bad decision that is upheld by their organization, the organization would be cheating. You really think no one can find any examples meeting that standard in the casino industry?
I learned that when the same individuals were winning cars....or the people walking up to claim their "win" were always waiving a Purple or Black card.
The same applied to their $10,000 cash giveaway when playing slots. "Any machine, any time". Give me a break. You know you are funneling those big cash prizes to your top tier players. Grandma .30 cents isn't winning your $20,000 cash prize.
Quote: TDVegasI do not believe casinos cheat...I do believe they have been and may continue to be deceptive. "Random selection" on give aways, prizes or other contests are NOT random. Random implies that everyone has an equal chance to win. That's simply not the case. I believe Station Casino made an "adjustment" to some of their giveaways, contests, etc. and removed the word "random"...because they know it's not random. Maybe a lawyer cue'd them in to the wording and they took the advice.
I learned that when the same individuals were winning cars....or the people walking up to claim their "win" were always waiving a Purple or Black card.
The same applied to their $10,000 cash giveaway when playing slots. "Any machine, any time". Give me a break. You know you are funneling those big cash prizes to your top tier players. Grandma .30 cents isn't winning your $20,000 cash prize.
Random does not mean equal. 100% drawings are weighted based on play. Every casino does that and all I have seen or been apart of disclose how the entries are earned. Most of the time by theoretical loss. The random is who gets picked once the amount of entries are determined. And much of the time that's the big players because they have far and away more entries.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Random does not mean equal. 100% drawings are weighted based on play. Every casino does that and all I have seen or been apart of disclose how the entries are earned. Most of the time by theoretical loss. The random is who gets picked once the amount of entries are determined. And much of the time that's the big players because they have far and away more entries.
ZCore13
Nonsense. That’s like saying roulette is a random game (it is)....but then adding “whose number gets picked is based on how many chips are on the number.
Random: made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.
Random: : being or relating to a set or to an element of a set each of whose elements has equal probability of occurrence.
Their slot give away has nothing to do with drawings either. It simply states anyone playing on any machine at any time can win. Those $20k payoffs are not going to “anyone”.
Not all contests are based on “entries”...they still aren’t equally weighted. It’s deceptive. They know it.
Quote: TDVegasNonsense. That’s like saying roulette is a random game (it is)....but then adding “whose number gets picked is based on how many chips are on the number.
Random: made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.
Random: : being or relating to a set or to an element of a set each of whose elements has equal probability of occurrence
Random doesn’t imply equal weighting. But it’s deceptive of the casinos if they don’t disclose how the weighting works (or if there is a weighting).