Bjcheat
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July 19th, 2019 at 1:01:36 PM permalink
I donít play blackjack but I heard a story about someone who got kicked out of a casino for accusing them of cheating. It seemed to me that what he experienced was probably not unlikely, statistically, and the conversation turned into a debate Iíd like to settle.

Apparently on three separate times with new decks at a 6-deck table he only saw around 11 aces come out every time and only a small amount of cards left to deal before they shuffled (or however it works). His contention is that itís unlikely the other half of the aces were in the small pile they didnít use, all three times, and that the card factory is putting less than 24 aces in there before it gets to the casino.

Regardless of how they might manage to keep aces out of play, is seeing only 11 aces three times, or even five times in a night unlikely? I have no idea how it all works with shoes and cuts and discards and whatever but my hunch is that itís not that uncommon.
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July 19th, 2019 at 8:24:08 PM permalink
Hi Nathan!
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July 19th, 2019 at 8:58:54 PM permalink
Hi, Iím not Nathan. Did you have a similar debate with someone named Nathan?

I imagine itís pretty common for people who start losing at any casino game to start thinking itís rigged. People probably get kicked out often for causing a scene over some unlikely but statistically possible occurrence.
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July 19th, 2019 at 9:05:46 PM permalink
Does your friend go to the restroom every single time the cards are changed on the table? They fan each new deck out face up as a part of that process & you can verify that the aces are all there...

Maybe your friend would have better luck with the pick 3 lotto.
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July 19th, 2019 at 9:23:49 PM permalink
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Hi Nathan!

It's kentry to you sir.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 19th, 2019 at 10:03:40 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Hi Nathan!



Probably very unlikely.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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July 19th, 2019 at 10:19:05 PM permalink
Are we talking about 18 yo's in a row here? I've lost track.
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July 19th, 2019 at 10:35:31 PM permalink
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Hi Nathan!




My DNA testing says thereís only a 12% chance this is Nathan.

I see where youíre coming from. The Nathan-ish type writing style. However , the post is actually a valid question and makes sense overall , so it canít be her
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July 19th, 2019 at 11:09:46 PM permalink
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My DNA testing says thereís only a 12% chance this is Nathan.

I see where youíre coming from. The Nathan-ish type writing style. However , the post is actually a valid question and makes sense overall , so it canít be her



I dunno... BJ pro gets banned, and BJ cheat shows up? Nathan-ish style writing, designed to mislead but doesn't quite get there? The give away for me is the "I heard that". Nathan always talked about what he heard, never from experience.

(the "he" was intentional, because I think the "she" thing was always BS)
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July 20th, 2019 at 1:10:57 AM permalink
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I donít play blackjack but I heard a story about someone who got kicked out of a casino for accusing them of cheating. It seemed to me that what he experienced was probably not unlikely, statistically, and the conversation turned into a debate Iíd like to settle. ...

Regardless of how they might manage to keep aces out of play, is seeing only 11 aces three times, or even five times in a night unlikely? I have no idea how it all works with shoes and cuts and discards and whatever but my hunch is that itís not that uncommon.



Hi BJCheat. Welcome to the forum.

In answer to you question... You present it as 'I heard a story about someone'. From that alone, YOU and WE have ZERO evidence that any cheating occured and zero reason to try to establish whether cheating occurred. Has as been said, the cards are normally presented face up at least once. Also, what 'someone' sees during the course of a shoe is seldom what happens. Such perceptions are usually flawed. Who counts aces as they come out, anyway? Rhetorical. There is no value in speculating further.

Meanwhile, if you are puzzled as to why you are greeted by all sorts of cryptic comments about being Nathan, Kentry or others, then please ignore them. Those comments come about because we only recently banned some members who had a writing style similar to yours.

To all members
This thread is not to become a discussion of the identity of BJCheat or anyone else.
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Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..

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