Noted AP Richard Munchkin to make an appearance
It appears that he is also a featured speaker at this Travel and Comp seminar
https://travelzork.com/pad-fomo-podcasters-after-dark-vegas-memorial-day-weekend/
No not his real name but his real name is sort of common knowledge to serious BJ players
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13It's very easy to find his real name. It's all over the internet.
ZCore13
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And what do you get for exposing his name? Even though it's public information, most would still not find it or not go through the trouble to find it. Go ahead now and pat yourself on the shoulder.
Quote: ZenKinGAnd what do you get for exposing his name? Even though it's public information, most would still not find it or not go through the trouble to find it. Go ahead now and pat yourself on the shoulder.
*pat *pat*
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See, I said it was easy. Even a dealer can do it. :)
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13See, I said it was easy. Even a dealer can do it. :)
ZCore13
Sarcastic reply towards Glen, but just goes to show really how subconsciously the pit feels about dealers or even about how higher management feels about everyone 'beneath' them. That's why I tell dealers and security guards to stand up for what's right and not take your job so seriously. The people above them don't give a rats ass about them. They're simply 'using' you and making you do the dirty work whether it's escorting me out the door, get my ID, or having you rat out a counter to them on break etc.
Wake up people.
Quote: ZenKinGAnd what do you get for exposing his name? Even though it's public information, most would still not find it or not go through the trouble to find it. Go ahead now and pat yourself on the shoulder.
Anyone who wanted to would take the (almost no) trouble to find it. He's a public figure with bios all over the place. It's not a secret. If it was, he could easily have the information removed via Google's "scrub" request system.
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ZCore13
Quote: ZenKinGSarcastic reply towards Glen, but just goes to show really how subconsciously the pit feels about dealers or even about how higher management feels about everyone 'beneath' them. That's why I tell dealers and security guards to stand up for what's right and not take your job so seriously. The people above them don't give a rats ass about them. They're simply 'using' you and making you do the dirty work whether it's escorting me out the door, get my ID, or having you rat out a counter to them on break etc.
Wake up people.
As usual, you are wrong. I talk to Glenn via PM's. Both he and I, and most people that don't think there are hidden meanings in everything, know it was a joke, not sarcastic.
And your even more wrong about the relationship between dealers and supervisors. They are on the same team and laugh at people that think they can tell dealers and security guards how to act. I work every day to make sure the dealers on my shift make as much money as possible. I like 95% of the dealers and I would guess the percentage is pretty close in reverse.
Your conspiracy theories are ridiculous.
ZCore13
That said.... it is not so far fetched that he is going to be at the ZorkFest seminars
He is one of the people I would love to hear.
Anthony Curtis also
The fact that the information is somewhat easily available to anyone looking is irrelevant. The fact that Richard Munchkin may or may not participate here is irrelevant. This is doxxing and outing of a professional player and should not be tolerated on a site supposedly friendly to professional players.
Quote: MrBoIt is very disturbing and disappointing that this forum would allow this discussion and participate in the outing of a known professional advantage player. This is precisely why so very few successful players choose to bother with these forums.
The fact that the information is somewhat easily available to anyone looking is irrelevant. The fact that Richard Munchkin may or may not participate here is irrelevant. This is doxxing and outing of a professional player and should not be tolerated on a site supposedly friendly to professional players.
The reason there are not lots more professional gamblers here is because there aren't that many. More pretending than doing in that profession.
Also, you can't out someone that's already out. He chooses to be a celebrity. He does t hide his identity, picture or that he plays. He's on the radio, tv, interviews etc. It's not like He's in the witness protection program and info is being given out. He likes being known
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13The reason there are not lots more professional gamblers here is because there aren't that many. More pretending than doing in that profession.
Please continue to perpetuate the idea within your industry that casino games cannot be beaten.
You are doing a great service.
Quote: MrBoIt is very disturbing and disappointing that this forum would allow this discussion and participate in the outing of a known professional advantage player. This is precisely why so very few successful players choose to bother with these forums.
The fact that the information is somewhat easily available to anyone looking is irrelevant. The fact that Richard Munchkin may or may not participate here is irrelevant. This is doxxing and outing of a professional player and should not be tolerated on a site supposedly friendly to professional players.
What’s more disturbing is people who play both sides of the fence and help casinos if it makes sense for them. We still have never gotten a public apology from whomever helped the Revel with the “You can’t lose” promo days before it started.
And no, I am not accusing Richard of it but he could have pushed the issue more in some “discussions” he has had the chance to.
Meanwhile you have some who feel they are an “AP” going around town causing disturbances and fighting the casinos, and then blaming others for “outing” them. In most cases if an AP gets exposed, which I don’t think happened here, they have only themselves to blame.
Strange days indeed.
OP just wanted to call him out IMO.
Quote: gamerfreakPlease continue to perpetuate the idea within your industry that casino games cannot be beaten.
You are doing a great service.
Of course they can. Can and doing it for a living are two different things.
ZCore13
There is a great deal of hype all over the place.
Those TV shows that expose cheating or AP opportunities in Vegas are usually out of date re-hashes of stories that have already been beaten to death.
There was one 'Takedown Team' show that showed casinos and retail establishments under attack by a scam team. The only good thing about the show is that one of the on screen personnel was a Seattle actress who was the girl friend of the team leader. She was often the best part of the episode.
Precisely. Its like doing the Friday evening appetizers at a variety of upscale single bars and restaurants. Back when I was in Los Angeles there was a guy who owned a great restaurant, was the sole support of three bookies and put on a tremendously fulfilling and exotic spread every Friday afternoon. Nice atmosphere, great food good looking women. Beat all the other places in town hands down for sure. However it was merely a good "find" it was not a full time life style thing. Though I sure was disappointed when the IRS seized the place.Quote: Zcore13Of course they can. Can and doing it for a living are two different things.
Same with various 'early bird' specials. Sure there are bargains and ways to do better than others but its still "the icing on the cake". A plus, An added benefit.
Its not a full time lifestyle. If you spin a multiplier wheel and it comes up with a high number for you...that's great but its just a spin of the wheel its not a new occupation for you.
Quote: FleaStiffPrecisely. Its like doing the Friday evening appetizers at a variety of upscale single bars and restaurants. Back when I was in Los Angeles there was a guy who owned a great restaurant, was the sole support of three bookies and put on a tremendously fulfilling and exotic spread every Friday afternoon. Nice atmosphere, great food good looking women. Beat all the other places in town hands down for sure. However it was merely a good "find" it was not a full time life style thing. Though I sure was disappointed when the IRS seized the place.
Same with various 'early bird' specials. Sure there are bargains and ways to do better than others but its still "the icing on the cake". A plus, An added benefit.
Its not a full time lifestyle. If you spin a multiplier wheel and it comes up with a high number for you...that's great but its just a spin of the wheel its not a new occupation for you.
Its a full time lifestyle for me
Every penny I am worth has come from APing casinos
Quote: darkozIts a full time lifestyle for me
Every penny I am worth has come from APing casinos
I'm sure there are hundreds of broke ass bums who can say the same thing.
Quote: darkozIts a full time lifestyle for me
Every penny I am worth has come from APing casinos
And do you own a house? Have health insurance? Have retirement savings? Paid enough into Social Security to receive benefits when retirement age?
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13And do you own a house? Have health insurance? Have retirement savings? Paid enough into Social Security to receive benefits when retirement age?
ZCore13
I dont plan on retiring
Quote: billryanI'm sure there are hundreds of broke ass bums who can say the same thing.
Im sure there are but im not a broke ass bum
So whats your point?
Quote: darkozIm sure there are but im not a broke ass bum
So whats your point?
Levity.
Quote: billryanLevity.
Hahahahahaha
Oops I mean LOL
Quote: darkozI dont plan on retiring
Thanks. That's gave me the information I was looking for.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Thanks. That's gave me the information I was looking for.
ZCore13
Precisely!
Quote: WizardPosts revealing the birth name of Richard Munchkin have been edited to remove that name, as well as the source used. This forum not only protects the privacy of its members, but everybody, especially those who many of us know.
Outstanding.
Quote: WizardPosts revealing the birth name of Richard Munchkin have been edited to remove that name, as well as the source used. This forum not only protects the privacy of its members, but everybody, especially thaose who many of us know.
Awesome.
Quote: darkozIts a full time lifestyle for me
Every penny I am worth has come from APing casinos
Basically the same for me,and Yes I own properties,have put two kids through college,have paid social security,and have insurance and an Ira and I could have retired 5 years ago,but why would I when I enjoy what I'm
Doing
Quote: mcallister3200People have been nuked for less. Disturbing.
Thank you and to all who supported my decision.
I would like to remind all that the rules protect the privacy of everybody, but especially forum members. I almost forgot but Richard Munchkin is a forum member. True, he has only posted twice, back in 2011, but a forum member nonetheless.
This is an unusual situation in terms of meting out a punishment. On the one hand, not respecting privacy is one of the worst offenses here and nuke-worthy. On the other, I'm sure Glen didn't know Munch was a forum member and he could argue that the information he revealed was out in the public domain anyway.
All things considered, I'll go with the minimum punishment of three days. I can't do nothing.
Example: The HIPA law says that a woman's maiden name, birthdate, and social security number are all "protected personal information". But, if you are a public figure then publicly-released information is not "protected personal information", i.e., it is not a violation of anyone's privacy to state that Hillary Rodham Clinton's maiden name is Rodham, or to mention her date of birth . But it is a violation of privacy to post her social security number, because she has never publicly released it.
I suggest you draw the line on the "privacy" rule in this way: anyone with a Wikipedia biographical entry is a public figure and information on that public figure that is trivially searchable (on Google) is not private.
EDIT : So: Richard Munchkin has a Wikipedia biography and his birth name is trivially obtainable by google search because Munchkin has previously released it publicly.
Quote: gordonm888Literally, if you google Richard Munchkin the first page of google summaries mentions his birth name. So, how can that be private information? Information that has been publicly released by celebrities is no longer "private."
Example: The HIPA law says that a woman's maiden name, birthdate, and social security number are all "protected personal information". But, if you are a public figure then publicly-released information is not "protected personal information", i.e., it is not a violation of anyone's privacy to state that Hillary Rodham Clinton's maiden name is Rodham, or to mention her date of birth . But it is a violation of privacy to post her social security number, because she has never publicly released it.
I suggest you draw the line on the "privacy" rule in this way: anyone with a Wikipedia biographical entry is a public figure and information on that public figure that is trivially searchable (on Google) is not private.
I agree if it is searchable from the persons Alias or screen name. It's a different story if information is not public knowledge and is then divulged.
ZCore13
Quote: RSI'll never understand why an (intentional) public figure would expect privacy.
A better question might be why anyone has an expectation of privacy.
Quote: Zcore13I agree if it is searchable from the persons Alias or screen name. It's a different story if information is not public knowledge and is then divulged.
ZCore13
Yes, and, by the way, no one on this thread has identified Richard Munchkin's screenname on WOV! NO person on this thread has said that Richard Munchkin's WOV screenname is "Whatever" and that "Whatever's" real name is XYZ. They just referred to a person who is a public figure by referring to his "show business name" and then saying that his real name is XYZ.
So, Richard Munchkin's privacy on the WOV forum was not violated. He can still post and we will not know who he is. (I am assuming that his WOV screenname is not "Richard Munchkin" lol.)
Quote: Zcore13And do you own a house? Have health insurance? Have retirement savings? Paid enough into Social Security to receive benefits when retirement age?
ZCore13
Owning a house is primarily a scam when youre young. It just traps you for the most part, gives you no flexibility, and takes away a big chunk of your savings on a down payment sucking you into the societal web of interest payments and debt
Healh insurance is NOT health ASSURANCE, learn to live healthy and not rely on so called professionals.
Retirement is an illusion. Many people work their whole lives as a slave doing something they hate to get to the so called 'illustrious' retirement and when they finally get there theyre bored out of their minds. Happiness and freedom come from doing something you enjoy and living in the moment. It doesnt come from something you 'desire' or needing to 'pursue' because if you do that youll never be mindfully enriched by it once you finally get there. You cannot gain abundance from lack. You can only go to the beach and vacation somewhere so many times.
Lastly Social Security is nothing but a sham as well. Their is no Social Security fund and the govt can eliminate social security tomorrow and everything you paid into it will be gone and they wont owe you a dime.
Quote: ZenKinGOwning a house is primarily a scam when youre young. It just traps you for the most part, gives you no flexibility, and takes away a big chunk of your savings on a down payment sucking you into the societal web of interest payments and debt
Healh insurance is NOT health ASSURANCE, learn to live healthy and not rely on so called professionals.
Retirement is an illusion. Many people work their whole lives as a slave doing something they hate to get to the so called 'illustrious' retirement and when they finally get there theyre bored out of their minds. Happiness and freedom come from doing something you enjoy and living in the moment. It doesnt come from something you 'desire' or needing to 'pursue' because if you do that youll never be mindfully enriched by it once you finally get there. You cannot gain abundance from lack. You can only go to the beach and vacation somewhere so many times.
Lastly Social Security is nothing but a sham as well. Their is no Social Security fund and the govt can eliminate social security tomorrow and everything you paid into it will be gone and they wont owe you a dime.
Is the key to happiness living in lousy conditions and playing blackjack a few hours a day? I'll stick with owning a house with my family and working at a stable job that I sometimes enjoy, sometimes am neutral toward, and sometimes don't enjoy.
Seriously - If you're so happy, you should show it more. Based on your posts, I wouldn't think that you had found the key to living a fulfilling life.
Quote: FinsRuleIs the key to happiness living in lousy conditions and playing blackjack a few hours a day? I'll stick with owning a house with my family and working at a stable job that I sometimes enjoy, sometimes am neutral toward, and sometimes don't enjoy.
Seriously - If you're so happy, you should show it more. Based on your posts, I wouldn't think that you had found the key to living a fulfilling life.
I dont live in lousy conditions. Im not a card counter either though
Stable jobs-huh! I have seen stable jobs collapse in a heartbeat (I myself had an extremely stable job. I was a film specialist involving negatives. Existed since the beginning of motion pictures. EVERY FILM REQUIRED IT. You made a movie you had to see me. And it was specialized so much that only two dozen people actually worked in the industry. We had so much work we would beg our competition to take some of our clients Then came digital and 2 years later the death of a century-long "stable" career)
People view AP as unstable. Yet when one casino gets rid of me I just move on to the next. Havent had a month off in 6 years
I consider what I do relatively stable
