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Dealer mess up
Quote: RSIIRC, it’s illegal in Nevada to back-up a card. Idk about other states.
Uh-oh RS -- this user says they are lenient in Vegas about backing up cards lol
Quote: aceofspadesUh-oh RS -- this user says they are lenient in Vegas about backing up cards lol
Yeah, they do it all the time. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s okay. Lots of shady s*** happens in the casino (from the employees) daily. Nothing new there.
Quote: aceofspadesCame across this on Reddit - what do the minds herein think? (aside from the fact that this guy hit a 12 versus a dealer 6 lol (apparently, later in his post, he corrects and says the dealer must have had something other than a 6 as he would not have hit 12 v 6 lol))
Dealer mess up
I would ask all players at that point if the wish to remain in the hand, or take their bets back. Player 2 will obviously take their bet back because the card busted them. Player 1 will not get another card, but can bail out if he wishes. The rest of the table will most likely stay in the game with a dealer 6 showing, but they can bail before any additional cards are dealt if they wish.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Quote: aceofspadesCame across this on Reddit - what do the minds herein think? (aside from the fact that this guy hit a 12 versus a dealer 6 lol (apparently, later in his post, he corrects and says the dealer must have had something other than a 6 as he would not have hit 12 v 6 lol))
Dealer mess up
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I would ask all players at that point if the wish to remain in the hand, or take their bets back. Player 2 will obviously take their bet back because the card busted them. Player 1 will not get another card, but can bail out if he wishes. The rest of the table will most likely stay in the game with a dealer 6 showing, but they can bail before any additional cards are dealt if they wish.
ZCore13
Completely agree on every level.
Quote: Zcore13Quote: aceofspadesCame across this on Reddit - what do the minds herein think? (aside from the fact that this guy hit a 12 versus a dealer 6 lol (apparently, later in his post, he corrects and says the dealer must have had something other than a 6 as he would not have hit 12 v 6 lol))
Dealer mess up
I would ask all players at that point if the wish to remain in the hand, or take their bets back. Player 2 will obviously take their bet back because the card busted them. Player 1 will not get another card, but can bail out if he wishes. The rest of the table will most likely stay in the game with a dealer 6 showing, but they can bail before any additional cards are dealt if they wish.
ZCore13
And thats why they build casinos. Anyone staying in the hand holding a 12 or 13 v 6 without hole card information has a lot of studying to do. It's a -EV hand.
Quote: ZenKinGAnd thats why they build casinos. Anyone staying in the hand holding a 12 or 13 v 6 without hole card information has a lot of studying to do. It's a -EV hand.
I had a guy think I was stupid for keeping a hand in of 19 vs 10 with a mid sized bet up. This was a count game and didn't have the HC info. I won the hand. 😁
Quote: Zcore13
I would ask all players at that point if the wish to remain in the hand, or take their bets back. Player 2 will obviously take their bet back because the card busted them. Player 1 will not get another card, but can bail out if he wishes. The rest of the table will most likely stay in the game with a dealer 6 showing, but they can bail before any additional cards are dealt if they wish.
ZCore13
I wouldn't do that. That procedure I would only do if like the dealers hole card got revealed, or dealer skipped over a bet(where then the missed spot will get their 2 cards and then the options are given) and other similar issues that happen pre-hand.
I would do what the dealer did (obviously in this scenario i would be the pit boss) and give the 12 a hit, he busts and just keep on going.
Dealer knew i was counting and as i was destroying the shoe and not tipping him, he purposely 'mis-dealt' to my 2 hands and forgot to give one of my hands a card and of course the cards couldnt be backed up and dealer got my face my card and i was given the option to stay in the hand or get out regarding my other hand and ended up losing that hand as well.
Ive also heard stories of other players also getting screwed by this and the dealer seeing the ace come out of the shoe and then coincidentally 'mis-dealing' and not being able to back up the cards.
Just another day in the corrupt world of casinos.
Quote: GlenGI wouldn't do that. That procedure I would only do if like the dealers hole card got revealed, or dealer skipped over a bet(where then the missed spot will get their 2 cards and then the options are given) and other similar issues that happen pre-hand.
I would do what the dealer did (obviously in this scenario i would be the pit boss) and give the 12 a hit, he busts and just keep on going.
Give which 12 a hit. The first one? Cant do that if you cant back up carfs like in most places. The second one? Not fair to him if that card should have been delivered to the first player.
You always want to attempt to lean towards the players with any dealer error. That is why you give anyone who wants to an option to get out of the hand with no loss.
ZCore13
Quote: ZenKinGThe policy or law in place about not being able to 'back up the cards' is completely ridiculous and the only thing it does is allow a rogue dealer to purposely screw an advantage player and ive had it happen to me already.
Dealer knew i was counting and as i was destroying the shoe and not tipping him, he purposely 'mis-dealt' to my 2 hands and forgot to give one of my hands a card and of course the cards couldnt be backed up and dealer got my face my card and i was given the option to stay in the hand or get out regarding my other hand and ended up losing that hand as well.
Ive also heard stories of other players also getting screwed by this and the dealer seeing the ace come out of the shoe and then coincidentally 'mis-dealing' and not being able to back up the cards.
Just another day in the corrupt world of casinos.
Not even worth addressing.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Give which 12 a hit. The first one?
ZCore13
Yes
Quote: GlenGYes
Most places you are not allowed to back up a card,so I would do what Zcore said.
I asked the supervisor about it, and he said that the casino was willing to concede advantage to the players for that hand in order to keep them happy. There were other players at the table as well, but they were in positions were previous to Player 1 and their hands were already decided.