Setting the Record Straight
The key confusion that arises among players today is they don't know the difference between being 'ejected for any reason' and being 'trespassed for any reason'. When you read court cases like Slade vs Caesars, it says you can be excluded at will(backoff), sure, no one ever questioned that, but im telling you right now this case was decided with the judge being vague enough to confuse everyone that it's the same as a trespass when it isn't. Go look up the State of Nevada vs. Annette Wilkinson and what the judge ruled regarding being trespassed WITHOUT CAUSE. The Wilkinson judge ruled it's completely unconstitutional for a casino to trespass someone without cause and that you had to be causing a disturbance or be disorderly in some fashion. Not one time in the Slade case was the word 'trespass' ever used, but in the Wilkinson case it was used time and time again, you don't think these judges know what the difference is? Go ahead and tell me how many card counters have ever been arrested and successfully convicted of a trespass. The answer is a flat ZERO. Either they never get arrested or charges are dismissed as soon as it gets to court.
This is why NRS 463.0129 is written the way it is and gives you both scenarios of casinos having to be able to remain open to the public without any restriction, but also allows casinos to exclude you at will as long as it's not discriminatory or excluded by law. Luckily, I'm too smart once again to see through the shenanigans and I hope every single counter from now takes the stand like I have because as much as they love to intimidate you with 6 foot 7 black guys to ask you for your ID(SLS, nice try, but how did it feel to get trolled and me smiling the whole time while you tried for 30 min to get my ID LOL), there's nothing these casinos can do to you. They can escort you out the building and speak into their little microphone all they want, but it's nothing but pure bull$hit. Come back next week, rinse and repeat.
Quote: ZenKinGNEVADA CASINOS CANNOT TRESPASS YOU FOR COUNTING. Wake up kids and stop letting casinos intimidate you. Start laughing in their face and keep coming back. There's nothing they can do. If everyone starts doing this, there will finally be change in this city.
The key confusion that arises among players today is they don't know the difference between being ejected for any reason and being trespassed for any reason. When you read court cases like Slade vs Caesars, it says you can be excluded at will(backoff), sure, no one ever questioned that, but im telling you right now this case was decided with the judge being vague enough to confuse everyone and in my mind was purposely done. Go look up the State of Nevada vs. Annette Wilkinson and what the judge ruled regarding being trespassed without cause. The judge ruled it's completely unconstitutional for a casino to do that and that you had to be causing a disturbance or be disorderly in some fashion.
This is why NRS 469.0129 is written the way it is and gives you both scenarios of casinos having to be able to remain open to the public without any restriction, but also allows casinos to exclude you at will as long as it's not discriminatory or excluded by law. Luckily, I'm too smart once again to see through the shenanigans and I hope every single counter from now takes the stand like I have because as much as they love to intimidate you with 6 foot 7 black guys to ask you for your ID(SLS, nice try, but how did it feel to get trolled and me smiling the whole time while you tried for 30 min to get my ID LOL), there's nothing these casinos can do to you. They can escort you out the building and speak into their little microphone all they want, but it's nothing but pure bull$hit. Come back next week, rinse and repeat. I'm praying someone arrests me, please go ahead and make my day, i got nothing better to do, i'd love to go to court, please backroom me too while you're at it. God, I wish this was the 60's where they try and beat you up, they would need 10 security guards to knock me down and guess what? I'd be back the next week for more.
Bravo!
Except in the 60's i think you would be landfill in a desert hole after the 2nd or 3rd time. They didnt care about the law either
If you're really passionate about this, why don't you Lawyer up (or like you said, you were gonna defend yourself) and File a case? If it turns into a change of policy for things in casino, then congrats you win. Otherwise, You're just all talk and no game.
Maybe you can shed light to the masses? I have a few friends who work for the LVRJ (Las Vegas Review Journal) , want me to get some names and #s for you?
Or you can call local news, Theres KSNV3, KTNV13, KVVU5..etc
Bedtime, its 6am..good night
Quote: ZenKinGdissuade anyone from going there.
This is where you fall flat on your face. The real APs (of which you are not one obviously) want to go 'there' because 'there' is where they make their income. They do everything they can to NOT be noticed so they can continue to go 'there'. And it is not just going there to be in the building, it is going there to play BJ and make money. So for sure you might 'win' and not be trespassed, but your tactic will not allow you to do what presumably you set out to do, which is make money playing BJ. If you have a new goal which is to have the casino do something to you for which you can sue them successfully, well, good luck with that. It is even possible you will succeed, but what a pathetic goal to have.
My first time in Vegas was during an ungodly heat wave and the newspapers were chock full of discussions about the temperatures and discussions about the rash of bodies being found in the desert. People had been using a sleeve. For those of you out there who are saddled with this ethics defect, a sleeve is a cylindrical device usually painted red on the sides and with a red chip on top but is filled with black chips so that surveillance does not get suspicious. Sleeves were in use on the Swing Shift and many tables were running in the red which some green eye-shade type found suspicious. Obviously collusion between dealers, shill players and the floor was rampant and digging holes in the desert soon became the new pastime in town.
Mere shenanigans unrelated to collusion usually did not result in one way trips to the desert, though a few times in those days they did drive people to the airport via a lengthy trip to the desert. Often the passenger would be placed in the car trunk and the trip through the desert would consist of the guys in the car discussing quite loudly about the idiot who forgot to bring the shovel and where they could go to get a shovel. Meanwhile the card sharp in the trunk was hot, scared, getting bounced around a lot and not particularly enjoying the topic of the conversation that he was hearing. Arrival at the airport often required some clothes cleaning in the mens room prior to booking the next flight out of town, but card sharks were generally not killed. After their unique ride to the airport, most did not return to Vegas at all.
Quote: FleaStiffFilling in holes in the desert.
My first time in Vegas was during an ungodly heat wave and the newspapers were chock full of discussions about the temperatures and discussions about the rash of bodies being found in the desert. People had been using a sleeve. For those of you out there who are saddled with this ethics defect, a sleeve is a cylindrical device usually painted red on the sides and with a red chip on top but is filled with black chips so that surveillance does not get suspicious. Sleeves were in use on the Swing Shift and many tables were running in the red which some green eye-shade type found suspicious. Obviously collusion between dealers, shill players and the floor was rampant and digging holes in the desert soon became the new pastime in town.
Mere shenanigans unrelated to collusion usually did not result in one way trips to the desert, though a few times in those days they did drive people to the airport via a lengthy trip to the desert. Often the passenger would be placed in the car trunk and the trip through the desert would consist of the guys in the car discussing quite loudly about the idiot who forgot to bring the shovel and where they could go to get a shovel. Meanwhile the card sharp in the trunk was hot, scared, getting bounced around a lot and not particularly enjoying the topic of the conversation that he was hearing. Arrival at the airport often required some clothes cleaning in the mens room prior to booking the next flight out of town, but card sharks were generally not killed. After their unique ride to the airport, most did not return to Vegas at all.
Im sure ZenKing feels a lot better now
Effectively, if you got your exact way, and proved exactly what you wanted, you'd KILL the game for everyone. Thus, no one is "stepping up" to do this because no one wants to KILL THE GAME for everyone. And you'd better not think "no, people wouldn't play their crappy rules, then they'd go bankrupt or let us play!" because you're dead wrong. Everyone said that about 6/5, and yet the tables are PACKED all day and night in vegas. Ploppies are ploppies, for a reason.
Quote: RomesSigh... let's say you're 100% right. Just like in your quote you said if more people laughed at them and kept coming back counting we could finally see real change! Well, you're right, they would start half shoeing every game, butcher the rules to 6/5 (or worse), make every game D9-11 only, and set table betting limits of 1x to 2x so you couldn't spread any higher.
Effectively, if you got your exact way, and proved exactly what you wanted, you'd KILL the game for everyone. Thus, no one is "stepping up" to do this because no one wants to KILL THE GAME for everyone.
False. AC still has many 3:2 games and high limit both in AC and Vegas are all 3-2. High limit ANYWHERE will never go to 6:5, no matter what happens legally and even the main floors wont go all to 6:5. Besides, this thread has nothing to do with getting anything done legally, but to just start seeing through the casinos bluffs.
Anyway, look at AC, its bad, but still playable. High limit will always remain at 3:2 because casinos understand when youre betting 50+ you really start to see how badly youre getting raped on each blackjack payout. You might not notice on a $10 wager, but try betting 50, 100, 200, etc. Even the most idiotic players will notice how much the casinos are stealing from them with 6:5. This will cause casinos to lose large amounts of big players and cause a massive word of mouth spreading about staying away from 6:5, which the casinos dont want.
AC will eventually go back to all 3:2 as will vegas and this will happen within the next 2 years. The more 6:5 you see, the more this creates competition. Casinos with a brain will start advertising 'best odds on the strips' '3-2 blackjack' etc. Its already happening with Cromwell and they are stealing large amounts of players from other casinos.
This whole notion that getting a legal decision against casinos will cause blackjack to die is patently false. They might make a bit more 6:5 short term, but in the long run it all goes back to 3:2 especially when the word eventually gets out and due to competition among one another to offer better games than the others.
Yeah, go count for a while in AC and see how that works out =). Because of their rulings they're insta quick to flat bet, half shoe, etc, etc... and I wonder how easy it would be to make it in all the databases out there (hurting just your entire AP career - if you ever make it past blackjack).Quote: ZenKinGFalse. AC still has many 3:2 games and high limit both in AC and Vegas are all 3-2.
Just like everyone said 6/5 would never even catch on...Quote: ZenKinGHigh limit ANYWHERE will never go to 6:5, no matter what happens legally and even the main floors wont go all to 6:5.
Which is why the 6/5 tables are always packed with eager ploppy players??? Even if their player base was HALF the original for BJ, the HE on the 6/5 game is 4x as bad... thus with half the players they're still making double the money...Quote: ZenKinG...Even the most idiotic players will notice how much the casinos are stealing from them with 6:5. This will cause casinos to lose large amounts of big players.
Bet. I'd love to bet on this. Want to give it 1 year, 2 years, 5 years? Please let me know what you're willing to bet and the stipulations.Quote: ZenKinGAC will eventually go back to all 3:2 as well will vegas.
Ahhh, just like COMCAST, Spectrum, and AT&T and how they "compete" and definitely don't just chop up american on a map and stay out of each others ways... Just like casinos charging for parking as soon as one does they all do so that they can all get away with it. Have you ever seen rounders? Casinos are like piranhas... You don't see them eating each other.Quote: ZenKinGBecause the more 6:5 you see, the more this creates competition.
TONS and TONS of casinos have and still do that, all over. Yet the 6/5 tables are PACKED at the other "exciting" casinos each and every night. Most of the places with the "best rules" are dumps, because that's the only way they can compete... Take a trip to Longhorn on Boulder Highway =).Quote: ZenKinGCasinos with a brain will start advertising 'best odds on the strips' '3-2 blackjack' etc. Its already happening with Cromwell and they are stealing large amounts of players from other casinos.
Quote: RomesWhich is why the 6/5 tables are always packed with eager ploppy players??? Even if their player base was HALF the original for BJ, the HE on the 6/5 game is 4x as bad... thus with half the players they're still making double the money...
Yeah on $10 tables. I wasnt referencing that. I was referencing hi limit. Youll never see 6-5 in a hi limit room for the reasons i stated before. Players will finally realize how much theyre getting raped on each bet when the bets are a lot more than $10.
Ill also go on the record and say this right now. If i had the capital pure cash to open up a casino. Id steal every single customer ofd every casino in this country within a matter of a year. Then i would love to see casinos not try to compete with me. The only reason you domt see more competition is vecause these casinos are run by drones.
If i was the Wynn or Encore id be offering 50 blackjack table games for the next 6 months with an advantage off the top all over the main floor. If i was SLS or Stratosphere id also be doing the same and offering deep cuts as well. These casinos are doing everything the opposite way that should be done and you wonder why theyre all in hundreds of millions in debt and goimg out of business. And this is just the gambling side of it. They dont even know how to promote their casino to the young crowd to the clubs, etc.
You would quickly see what happens to all these caesars and mgm properties on the strip once all their customers vanish. All it takes is one or two casinos to make a move to all 3:2 and the herd will follow or they risk the loss of their whole customer base
Quote: SiegfriedRoyIn addition to what Romes said. Even if the law may "favor" you now, the casino industries are in bed with the State legislatures and gaming. They are always going to find a way to rewrite vague laws to protect their own.
And they will continue to lose in court. The law will never change. You cant trespass someone from any business open to the public without cause. It is simply unconstitutional to do so. Telling them to leave for any reason is a different story. Thats why no counter ever successfully gets convicted for a trespass upon return.
Quote: ZenKinGIf i had the capital pure cash to open up a casino. Id steal every single customer ofd every casino in this country within a matter of a year.
LOL
Sure you would.
Quote: ZenKinG
AC will eventually go back to all 3:2 as will vegas and this will happen within the next 2 years. The more 6:5 you see, the more this creates competition. Casinos with a brain will start advertising 'best odds on the strips' '3-2 blackjack' etc. Its already happening with Cromwell and they are stealing large amounts of players from other casinos.
This is the most insane thing you've ever said, including the 9/11 truther BS.
Quote: billryanZK has been promising to hand out thousands of flyers for months now. I'm not on the strip much, does anyone have any examples they have come across?
The cost of printing them will kill his bankroll.
Quote: IbeatyouracesThe cost of printing them will kill his bankroll.
Maybe he can break into his 401 plan.
I think I've seen them. They are the ones with pictures of the naked/scantily clad female "attorneys," right? I think if you call one of the numbers listed, they will have one of their associates come to your room and tell you all about the shenanigans the casinos are up to!Quote: billryanZK has been promising to hand out thousands of flyers for months now. I'm not on the strip much, does anyone have any examples they have come across?
Quote: ZenKinG
You would quickly see what happens to all these caesars and mgm properties on the strip once all their customers vanish. All it takes is one or two casinos to make a move to all 3:2 and the herd will follow or they risk the loss of their whole customer base
That's weird. When downtown I see tons of ploppies sitting at the 6/5 table in the Binion's party pit but at the same time it's crickets in the Golden Gate and D with 3/2.
Quote: MaxPenThat's weird. When downtown I see tons of ploppies sitting at the 6/5 table in the Binion's party pit but at the same time it's crickets in the Golden Gate and D with 3/2.
Cause they dont know how to promote their games efectively as well as many other things. The objective is to get them in the door. Sadly these casinos could use someone like me but i refuse to work for such a corrupt enterprise. Not to mention they rather hire some other idiot instead who is more 'qualified' tham me with their hefty 1-2 years job experience on their resume.
Quote: ZenKinGCause they dont know how to promote their games efectively as well as many other things. The objective is to get them in the door. Sadly these casinos could use someone like me but i refuse to work for such a corrupt enterprise. Not to mention they rather hire some other idiot instead who is more 'qualified' tham me with their hefty 1-2 years job experience on their resume.
So you're saying Derek Stevens marketing manager sucks. Got it.
There are institutions and people in the world that are false and deceptive, who lie and cheat, who are a special flavor of "evil." Crooked politicians, casinos and people with destructive mental illnesses fall into this category. When you encounter these agents of evil, there are three categories of options:
1. immediately walk away and avoid them in the future
2. confront them. Denounce them and try to ruin their reputation, or take legal action against them. Make them pay! Try to change the world and make it better.
3. outsmart them. Exploit their weaknesses, the loopholes in their rules and their self-conceit. End-run them, out-think them and out-play them. Minimize your losses when you are forced to deal with them and assertively engage them on those instances when you have figured out how it will profit you.
Option #3 is really only available if you are sharp, cunning and in control of your emotions.
Very few people are suited to outsmart every bad thing they encounter; in those instances I think Option #1 is usually the best way to go.
For people who are passionate about social change, you can hurl your ship into that reef. I personally have concluded that Option#2 is usually not the wise thing to do.
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
But his honor is pure and his courage as well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell
And he'll go to the grave as an angry old man
There's a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl
He's always at home with his back to the wall
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost
And he struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross
And he likes to be known as the angry young man
Songwriters: BILLY JOEL
Quote: ZenKinGWake up kids and stop letting casinos intimidate you, stop showing them ID, and start laughing in their face and keep coming back.
Weren't you the one who was complaining that you had to show them your ID just because they asked
Quote: ZenKinGEvery single casino that threatens me with a fake trespass from now on will have a massive campaign against them with 1000's of flyers all over the strip telling people what actually goes down and to dissuade anyone from going there.
Which means if there aren't 1000s of these fliers all over the strip we know it never happened to you
Quote: ZenKinGThe key confusion that arises among players today is they don't know the difference between being 'ejected for any reason' and being 'trespassed for any reason'.
In their defense, those blackjack players care more about earning money than studying law. A lot of other people might think that being so highly skilled in the field of law would lead to a high income, but they haven't heard your story that would prove them wrong
Quote: ZenKingEvery single casino that threatens me with a fake trespass from now on will have a massive campaign against them with 1000's of flyers all over the strip telling people what actually goes down and to dissuade anyone from going there.
Will you be the one in the Pikachu Costume or Minion?
Quote: GlenGWill you be the one in the Pikachu Costume or Minion?
Glen everyone knows that Bumblebee from the transformers is the way to go!
Here is the major problem with the Slade vs Caesars case that will cause this deciding case to be challenged once again. The judge consistently referred to NRS 463.0129 and the 2 main points of that statute referred to were section E and Paragraph 3
(e) To ensure that gaming is conducted honestly, competitively and free of criminal and corruptive elements, all gaming establishments in this state must remain open to the general public and the access of the general public to gaming activities must not be restricted in any manner except as provided by the Legislature
3. This section does not ․ [a]brogate or abridge any common-law right of a gaming establishment to exclude any person from gaming activities or eject any person from the premises of the establishment for any reason.
Here is the main problem. EXCLUDE from GAMING ACTIVITIES, NOT the whole property in itself. EJECTING from premises is a backoff, not a trespass. No where does it say casinos can EXCLUDE YOU FROM THEIR PREMISES, IT SAYS 'GAMING ACTIVITIES'
But the judge misused the statute in the court case and said they can EXCLUDE you for ANY REASON, but no where in the statute does it say they can exclude you from their premises for ANY REASON, only from GAMING ACTIVITIES.
You cannot trespass someone without cause legally in nevada and the more i dig into it, the more i make my case. The judge completely misused NRS 463.0129 in the Slade Case. You cannot EXCLUDE at will(trespass), you can only EJECT at will(backoff). NRS 463.0129 does not say casinos can EXCLUDE at will, but instead says EXCLUDE from 'GAMING ACTIVITIES'.
To EXCLUDE at WILL from a business open to the public would be completely unconstitutional. The State of Nevada vs Wilkinson already discussed what happens if a casino tries to trespass you without cause and they ruled its unconstitutional. They can exclude you from gaming activities but not excluding you from their premises. They can only eject you from the premises, which is a backoff.
If the Slade case allows casinos to exclude at will, why was NRS 463.0129 not amended to fit that description? Why does it still ONLY SAY exclude from 'gaming activities' as well as eject(backoff) from the premises? Why doesnt NRS 463.0129 say they can exclude at will?
Hmmm
So, ZK, instead of worrying about trespass laws and getting ejected, maybe you should practice not getting caught in the first place.
Quote: ZenKinGAlso not to mention one can also make the argument that the whole statute of NRS 463.0129 is void for vagueness and uncomstitutional on its face. The law here can be attacked in so many ways. Theres more holes than i can count. Only a matter of time
Serious question - did you go to law school and/or pass the bar?
Quote: ZenKinG. Theres more holes than i can count.
Perhaps you should focus on counting cards, not holes.
Quote: MrVPerhaps you should focus on counting cards, not holes.
Its ZenKings method for hole carding :)
1, The judge in the Slade case purposely confused everyone what their rights are to help these casinos maintain control, while still staying constitutional and that's why NRS 463.0129 was never amended after this case was decided since it changed nothing. The Slade case also never mentioned Slade being read the Trespass Act, but used words such as evicted or excluded through a letter, so even more likely this case was intended to cause mass confusion and to maintain the bluff of the casinos powers over its patrons.
Or 2 , This was a trespass case and the judge sincerely simply misapplied NRS 463.0129 in thinking the statute allows casinos to exclude at will when it clearly only says to exclude from gaming activities and ejecting(backoff) someome from their premises. But if thats the case why wasnt NRS 463.0129 amended to say they can exclude at will? I mean this was a supreme court case so the statutes should follow.
But in all seriousness, of course casino’s are doing things that range from sh*tty to illegal when it comes to people who can potentially hurt their bottom line. It’s been that way since the beginning, and dealing with it is part of the game you signed up to play.
You have a much better chance fighting it on the casino floor than the courtroom. I don’t think you will have much luck undoing 60 years of greasy crony capitalism.
Quote: ZenKinGSo not one person can actually argue the facts i presented. Two things pop out to me.
None of us are smart enough to argue anything about the law with you. Which is why none of us could ever drive an $8,000 car without going into debt
Quote: FinsRuleSerious question - did you go to law school and/or pass the bar?
Obviously the bar exam is corrupt and is written only for people who have paid their extortion to be given the answers. We know though that he could pass it anyways if he would just give himself a little credit.
Quote: GWAEObviously the bar exam is corrupt and is written only for people who have paid their extortion to be given the answers. We know though that he could pass it anyways if he would just give himself a little credit.
I was contemplating taking the bar exam
But couldnt memorize the names of all those alcoholic beverages
Quote: ZenKinGIll also go on the record and say this right now. If i had the capital pure cash to open up a casino. Id steal every single customer ofd every casino in this country within a matter of a year. Then i would love to see casinos not try to compete with me. The only reason you domt see more competition is vecause these casinos are run by drones.
If i was the Wynn or Encore id be offering 50 blackjack table games for the next 6 months with an advantage off the top all over the main floor. If i was SLS or Stratosphere id also be doing the same and offering deep cuts as well. These casinos are doing everything the opposite way that should be done and you wonder why theyre all in hundreds of millions in debt and goimg out of business. And this is just the gambling side of it. They dont even know how to promote their casino to the young crowd to the clubs, etc.
You would quickly see what happens to all these caesars and mgm properties on the strip once all their customers vanish. All it takes is one or two casinos to make a move to all 3:2 and the herd will follow or they risk the loss of their whole customer base
Please make sure I am aware of the opening date and time for your new casino. I want to make sure I get there within the first few hours before it closes down.
Quote: ZenKinGSo not one person can actually argue the facts i presented. Two things pop out to me.
I don't think one person cares. We are all waiting for you to do something.
Quote: ZenKinGShout out to the Palms idiotic management. Palms if youre reading this which I hope you are, I hope you yook my advice of what I told the shift manager today about backing me off and trespassing me. Because guess what, you can back me off all you want ill keep coming back. I also suggest you tell that drome shift manager who said if i come back ill be trespassed because guess what YOU CANT DO [Redacted by Mod: OnceDear] TO ME. Lets go to court. Go ahead try and trespass me and see what happens in court. Ill make sure before i die that Vegas ends up just like Atlantic City. Mark my words. This has nothing to do with money to me anymore. Im sick of this droned out society that simply follows orders and never questions amything and just carry out immoral acts of injustice simply for a [Redacted by Mod: OnceDear] paycheck. All of you idiots running these casinos will soon learn ignorance is no excuse
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Quote: ZenKinGShout out to the Palms idiotic management. Palms if youre reading this which I hope you are, I hope you yook my advice of what I told the shift manager today about backing me off and trespassing me. Because guess what, you can back me off all you want ill keep coming back. I also suggest you tell that drome shift manager who said if i come back ill be trespassed because guess what YOU CANT DO [Redacted by Mod: OnceDear] TO ME. Lets go to court. Go ahead try and trespass me and see what happens in court. Ill make sure before i die that Vegas ends up just like Atlantic City. Mark my words. This has nothing to do with money to me anymore. Im sick of this droned out society that simply follows orders and never questions amything and just carry out immoral acts of injustice simply for a [Redacted by Mod: OnceDear] paycheck. All of you idiots running these casinos will soon learn ignorance is no excuse
Dude, you scare me. Your ramblings give you the appearance of one who will eventually pull a Stephen Paddock. Seek help, talk to a medical professional, not just about how you feel about casinos and BJ, but life in general. Of all the craziness I read on this forum, you are by far the scariest.
Also as a side note to the mods, I know the occasional curse over PG-13 gets a slide, but this seems excessive.
Mr. Lahey, I think you're drinking again.Quote: Mission146“I am the liquor.”-Jim Lahey
R.I.P. John Dunsworth 4/12/1946-10/16/2017
Quote: ZenKinG...YOU CANT DO [redacted] TO ME....simply for a [redacted] paycheck
I don't know what's wrong with you ZK, but you know where you have to go now.
Sentence TBC
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Dude, you scare me. Your ramblings give you the appearance of one who will eventually pull a Stephen Paddock. Seek help, talk to a medical professional, not just about how you feel about casinos and BJ, but life in general. Of all the craziness I read on this forum, you are by far the scariest.
Also as a side note to the mods, I know the occasional curse over PG-13 gets a slide, but this seems excessive.
I got in trouble for saying so, but I saw this early on.
I think the chances of ZK becoming a mass murderer are remote. But he will be miserable until he addresses this. Obviously. If you can't be happy as a decent looking (shut up Axel), intelligent guy in your 20 s with a pile of cash in Vegas and no boss, you have massive problems inside.
He is, in fact, a pretty pleasant guy irl. Only one thing stands in his way.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
"PPD is characterized by at least three ( how about all 7?) of the following symptoms:
excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
tendency to bear grudges persistently (i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights);
suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
a combative and tenacious sense of self-righteousness out of keeping with the actual situation;
recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;
tendency to experience excessive self-aggrandizing, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
preoccupation with unsubstantiated "conspiratorial" explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large."
Unfortunately, it is very hard to recognize such problems in yourself. Id guess this one is especially tough because you have to go from self aggrandizing to humbly admitting your mind is effed up.
But perhaps you can preserve your self esteem with the knowledge that knowing the truth is better than being deluded and the freedom that will come when you understand that you don't have to be either perfect or worthless.
Sometimes I let the liquor do the posting, but that’s still an easy rule to follow.
