Is texting signals legal?
Quote: Zcore13That's him doing that. He didn't say that was the casino rule.
ZCore13
Doesnt matter, that means there are casinos like i suspected that call out checks play simply for jumps in your bet simply to catch counters.
Lastly you havent answered my reply. Why do you think I wont be in Vegas in one year?
Quote: ZenKinGYeah you know the laws alright. Just like your 'checks play' information. Let me know when they call out 'checks play' on roulette and get back to me. Also let me know why so many other casinos call 'checks play' on bets under 100 when they make a huge jump in their bets when you claim 'checks play' is only for 100 or higher.
Ill wait.
We call out Checks play (or Black in Action) on ALL games. You can stop waiting now.
Quote: ZenKinGDoesnt matter, that means there are casinos like i suspected that call out checks play simply for jumps in your bet simply to catch counters.
Lastly you havent answered my reply. Why do you think I wont be in Vegas in one year?
I've played in casinos that called checks play or green action for $25 bets.
Quote: ZenKinGDoesnt matter, that means there are casinos like i suspected that call out checks play simply for jumps in your bet simply to catch counters.
No, cause you can't count cards in carnival games or dice. Checks play is called out through those games as well.
Sometimes you might get lucky and the floor will raise your avg. Bet.
Quote: ZenKinGWell ive never heard it anywhere else. If you heard it on other tables its the exception not the rule. And on blackjack you hear it repeatedly.
You hear it repeatedly regardless of the game, though usually only the first time that player does it in that session. It's the denomination, pre-set by the House, they want to be notified is in play. I'll put my 30 years of gaming primarily NOT blackjack, plus a year as a BJ dealer, up against your 1000 hours of play.
Some cruise ship casinos do it for green in play, also some low-roller joints. Everywhere I've played that wasn't a HL room does it for 100 at the most (highest amount that gets the call, and everything above it). And I've played in probably 200 casinos now, lifetime.
I think that they'd just call the cops nowadays but the old school solution was very common back in the day.
Cheaters Justice!
Quote: WangSanJoseUsing equipment in casino advantage play is a felony, but how about smartphones?
For example, my friend sets his iPhone in vibration mode and kept in his pocket without looking or touching it while sitting at a table. I text him while standing to signal him the actions.
Another example would be texting to call in(vibration) BP.
Even the casino personnel found out I'm texting, do they have the right to look our phones and assert we're cheating?
WangSanJose,
Signalling (whether by phone or otherwise) is illegal in Nevada if the play involves "spooking": that is, if the player obtaining the information is not seated at the BJ table. This is a result of the State of Nevada vs. Einbinder and Dalben.
For more information, see
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/spooking.htm
Hope this helps!
Dog Hand
What does '&; mean? Nothing unless you incriminate yourself.
Coupled with the video of the tester watching hole cards at your table and you varying so much from BS, and I’d say you are looking at a trespass act at the minimum with the cops getting called.Quote: onenickelmiracleWhat if it was in code, then maybe illegal but not practically prosecutable.
What does '&; mean? Nothing unless you incriminate yourself.
Dice Dealer wrote: Happened to me one time at a very sweaty Native casino. I was thinking "Seriously? Green?" so the next hand (prior to being able to count) I chunked out two hands at two hundred each in black. I won both and they promptly had to close the game. Funny stuff.
https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?2645-quot-Checks-play-quot
Quote: DogHandWangSanJose,
Signalling (whether by phone or otherwise) is illegal in Nevada if the play involves "spooking": that is, if the player obtaining the information is not seated at the BJ table. This is a result of the State of Nevada vs. Einbinder and Dalben.
For more information, see
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/spooking.htm
Hope this helps!
Dog Hand
Really? So basically big player team play is illegal is the spotter is not seated?
If the spotter stands behind the table, back-counting, and signal the big player the count, like Nathaniel and his partner did in The Blackjack Life, is it illegal?
No, what you described is legal.
Spooking refers to signalling the dealer's hole card using information not available to those seated at the table.
The difference is that the count is based on information available to anyone watching the game, while spooking is the conveying information NOT available to the players seated at the table.
In fact, Steven Einbinder and Tony Dalben were playing hole cards, but since they were both seated at the table, they were NOT guilty of spooking.
Hope this helps!
Dog Hand
Quote: ZenKinG. Gotta protect the horse that feeds you huh?
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I'm trying to visualize this and I come up with a horse holding Zcore and feeding him with a bottle, and then a threat appears and Zcore leaps up and pulls out a knife or something.
Hope you're doing well ZK.
Quote: nvr55xxIf you're using a device to assist with gaming decisions you would be considered to be cheating. A cellphone is a "device". Deciding when to enter a shoe due to a high count is a "gaming decision". Using text messages to tell people to enter shoes could be considered cheating. Don't do it!
Im quite certain the spirit of the law is to prevent people from using an electronic device to aid in the mathematics of the game for example using your cell phone to keep track of the cards played
I fail to see how inviting someone to play (regardless of the true count) would be seen as in violation of the spirit of the law
Texting someone to sit down at a slot machine to play because you noticed a must-hit was extremely high would suddenly become a crime. Or any communication in which a +ev for the player existed
I dont think that would hold up in court
