NightStalker
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October 1st, 2010 at 2:00:42 PM permalink
Hi,

I would like to know the change in house edge for allowing infinte resplitting? I've observed that your Tripple Attack ananlysis was done for infinite decks and infinite re-splitting.

I am using a 21 simulator which allows infinite resplitting-constraint by design. Can I ignore the impact of infinite resplitting for standard game of 21-blackjack/spanish/tripple attack in my ananlysis? How big the effect is- for standard vegas blackjack game?
PS: My player never split Faces.

Thanks
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October 1st, 2010 at 3:01:23 PM permalink
My educated guess is that going from re-splitting to 4 hands to infinite re-splitting is worth about 0.001% to the player. I've played a lot of blackjack, and seldom am I rebuffed to split to five hands because of the four hand limit.
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October 1st, 2010 at 3:12:18 PM permalink
What is the most hands split to you have seen?
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October 1st, 2010 at 3:32:03 PM permalink
Once every 600hours in my span of 2000hours play.. If you split faces, then you will see this a lot more often..
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October 1st, 2010 at 3:34:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My educated guess is that going from re-splitting to 4 hands to infinite re-splitting is worth about 0.001% to the player. I've played a lot of blackjack, and seldom am I rebuffed to split to five hands because of the four hand limit.



Thanks a lot Mr.Wizard. I guess I am better off ignoring the effect of infinite splitting instead of correcting the design at the cost of extensibility.
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October 3rd, 2010 at 8:32:36 AM permalink
I've seen it a couple times; It's not that rare. I would estimate once every 50,000 hands or so. I saw a guy get dealt 5 aces at a shop that allowed re-splitting aces -- needless to say, he was pissed ... especially when the dealer drew to 21.
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October 3rd, 2010 at 8:47:22 PM permalink
The best on I have seen at work is someone splitting 7's against my 5. They split to 6 hands (8 deck shoe). won 3 and lost 3. It turned into a collosal waste of time for us both.
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October 4th, 2010 at 1:28:23 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

What is the most hands split to you have seen?



Eight 3's against the dealer's 5... lost 'em all.
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October 29th, 2019 at 12:32:35 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My educated guess is that going from re-splitting to 4 hands to infinite re-splitting is worth about 0.001% to the player.


What about re-splitting to five hands, which is what my local casino allows? I've calculated that it is worth about 0.003% to the player, but my math sucks, big time.

Is my calculation about right, or am I on the wrong planet?
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October 29th, 2019 at 7:33:26 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

I've seen it a couple times; It's not that rare. I would estimate once every 50,000 hands or so. I saw a guy get dealt 5 aces at a shop that allowed re-splitting aces -- needless to say, he was pissed ... especially when the dealer drew to 21.



Automatic shuffler? Continuous shuffler? Hand shuffle?

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