one2six

i got myself the actual machine, trying to figure out how to beat it, if anyone wants to discuss or wants me to test something, send me a pm.

You can't. Save the time.

Quote: deviru

i got myself the actual machine, trying to figure out how to beat it, if anyone wants to discuss or wants me to test something, send me a pm.

Lol. That's funny.

ZCore13

What is the software version?

2.01.i

Very old model. Very old software. Any idea if you can update it?

If I am not mistaken yours will be very easy beatable, as it always took two cards at the same time.
You can read about that in this thread:
http://gamingfloor.biz/forum/showthread.php?t=3465

Quote: acw

Very old model. Very old software. Any idea if you can update it?

If I am not mistaken yours will be very easy beatable, as it always took two cards at the same time.
You can read about that in this thread:
http://gamingfloor.biz/forum/showthread.php?t=3465

Lol. Wrong.


ZCore13

Quote: acw

Very old model. Very old software. Any idea if you can update it?

If I am not mistaken yours will be very easy beatable, as it always took two cards at the same time.
You can read about that in this thread:
p?t=3465

thanks for your input. i've already tested this on the day i got the machine and this is not true (at least on the one i got). it often puts the cards in the same slot but not in the same order and does not ALWAYS happen. there is computer port on the machine but i am not sure how this can be used to update the software.

there is a casino in my area that uses the newer model (one2six ots), with version 1.4. i believe this came out before the older 2.01.i so my guess is that they use the same algorithm.

i recorded a video for 7 hours at the bj table with spy cam(since they dont allow you to use any device while playing) and tried putting the card in the same order that the dealer did and found something useful.

i know this doesnt interest most of ap's here since u.s has so many places with great shoe games. but if anyone has any information that you want to share, please feel free to pm me.

Quote: Zcore13

Lol. Wrong.


ZCore13

Zcore is your "wrong"statement referring to the model of his machine or are you saying you don't believe the link about the early model shuffler being beatable?

I am not too sure about the 1.4 version. I only know of one casino still using it. The fast majority uses version 2.4.0.0 on the newer model. If I were ever able to choose a machine/software myself, I would simply take that one. Since you do seem to have the older model, you will need to update it to version 2.03 simply to be in line of what other casinos are using now on the older models.

Put in a fresh deck and bet on red/black side bets.

FWIW these machines are absolutely exploitable. For a clue as to how, look around Vegas for the counter measures being used. Anytime you have any piece of information, no matter how apparently small. It can be exploited- profitably or not is another problem.

All of this is #FakeNews. A One2Six is not beatable. Move on and do something better with your time and money. There really should be some type of IQ test prior to creating a username. One simple question: Do you think a continuous shuffler from Shuffle Master can be beat, and if they select yes, deny them access to creating a username.

I’m not AP, I play for fun, I live in Asia. All casinos here use CSM (126). I thought there is no way to beat casino on CSM for blackjack. Lately I saw the the Discountgambling.net by Stephen How who claims he can change the -EV to +EV by counting. I read the article but don’t really know if it is correct.
Anybody wants to discuss this? Or is this old news already. Thanks.

Quote: SM777

All of this is #FakeNews. A One2Six is not beatable. Move on and do something better with your time and money. There really should be some type of IQ test prior to creating a username. One simple question: Do you think a continuous shuffler from Shuffle Master can be beat, and if they select yes, deny them access to creating a username.

Do you dispute that earlier models, made by shuffle master were beatable ?

There was a time when these things first started popping up where they weren't randomizing the cards and they were coming back out in the same order. Certain places got hit up hard.