cwazy
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July 29th, 2017 at 3:35:23 PM permalink
On a recent session, I ran into a spate of dealer mistakes (one of which resulted in a mid-4 figure swing in my direction after being allowed to double down on hard 16 after a 5 was exposed, and another in which the dealer mistakenly hit soft 17 and busted at a S17 table vs. my hard 14 for a $1k swing) and it really reminded me of the value of dealer mistakes.

I have read that Don Johnson figured he picks up 1 bet per hour from dealer mistakes, but I find that to be a very high estimate unless he is doing something (besides just having strippers at the table) to cause these. From my recent experience I have deduced the following tips for maximizing the odds of dealer mistakes. But are there more?

1) Play at odd-man-out tables where the rules are different than they are throughout most of the casino. The soft 17 mistake occurred at a table where the vast majority of tables are H17.

2) Don't be helpful. When the dealer was hitting her soft 17, I instinctively began trying to grab her attention with my hands. It was only through luck that she didn't notice and played out the hand. The time for calling attention to mistakes is afterward (if necessary to take advantage of it).

3) Don't signal for double or split when placing bets for them. Just put it out there, and if a mistake occurs, argue for the most advantageous outcome.

4) Play with the fastest dealers you can find. They seem most likely to make mistakes.

Are there any other major ways to maximize the odds of dealer mistakes that I am missing? I just don't see how you can get to a bet per hour (which by itself would give you an edge at most BJ tables) through dealer mistakes unless I am missing something.
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July 29th, 2017 at 3:40:29 PM permalink
Play 4 Card Poker at a table where you see a dealer who normally isn't at that game. Among the games I play this one leads to by far the most dealer errors. They miss the flush in their own hand very often.
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July 29th, 2017 at 3:46:37 PM permalink
Quote: cwazy

...I have read that Don Johnson figured he picks up 1 bet per hour from dealer mistakes, but I find that to be a very high estimate unless he is doing something (besides just having strippers at the table) to cause these. From my recent experience I have deduced the following tips for maximizing the odds of dealer mistakes. But are there more?



https://www.888casino.com/blog/burning-down-the-house-the-amazing-story-of-don-johnson/

"In fact, things got hopping enough that the pit-boss failed to recognize Johnson card-counting, the guy next to him catching glimpses of the dealerís hole cards and another collaborator sequencing the deck, telling Johnson when strong cards would be coming his way."

THAT'S how he did it!
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July 29th, 2017 at 3:47:05 PM permalink
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Are there any other major ways to maximize the odds of dealer mistakes that I am missing? I just don't see how you can get to a bet per hour (which by itself would give you an edge at most BJ tables) through dealer mistakes unless I am missing something.

One that I encountered accidentally ( and it may only work in the UK, where misdeals are backed up and redealt )
Playing heads up at low stakes, every once in a while don't push a wager forward while taking a glug from my drink. Dealer deals to a box with no money in it. So hand gets backed up after you have seen the next few cards. If they were great cards: max bet.
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July 29th, 2017 at 4:02:12 PM permalink
I asked this before and didn't get an answer. Don Johnson said in several interviews that "if the dealer makes a mistake, I get a free bet". The way he said it, he makes it sound like it's an agreement with the casino that anytime the dealer makes a mistake, he gets to play a freeroll on the next hand. Is that how it worked, or what is the "free bet" he's describing?
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July 29th, 2017 at 4:10:54 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

I asked this before and didn't get an answer. Don Johnson said in several interviews that "if the dealer makes a mistake, I get a free bet". The way he said it, he makes it sound like it's an agreement with the casino that anytime the dealer makes a mistake, he gets to play a freeroll on the next hand. Is that how it worked, or what is the "free bet" he's describing?



He's just saying that generally dealer mistakes inure to the benefit of the player. You get a free shot at winning with no risk of losing.
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July 29th, 2017 at 4:14:14 PM permalink
have a detailed conversation with the dealer. also after the mistake immediately start talking, either to the dealer or to another player. this will distract them so that they don't notice that they made the mistake.
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July 29th, 2017 at 11:53:59 PM permalink
When you want to spread to playing 2 hands, sneak in the second bet before the dealer deals the cards. If the dealer sees your bet and deals both hands no harm done, if the dealer skips your second hand and deals to the player after you, he will have to deal the rest of the hands then you get a chance to pull out your bet after seeing the dealer's upcard (at least that's how they do it where I play)
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July 30th, 2017 at 12:03:21 AM permalink
Play in break in houses, play towards the end of the shift and if you play a place often enough, find out when veteran female dealers are dealing the last hour or two before their "Friday". I find woman who are sharp as a tack on "Monday" are thinking of other things the end of their week. Honestly haven't seen the same in men dealers.
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August 1st, 2017 at 8:38:48 AM permalink
Maybe PaiGowDan did in fact get some good points in (among others I disagree with)... I'm a fan of taking advantage of dealer mistakes, 100%. I'm not a fan of CAUSING them to happen. If you directly cause a mistake in the game, that's cheating. Now if you're just chatting a ton with a fast dealer, that's not cheating, but just I guess a dick move since your intent is to use that conversation to purposefully mess the dealer up, not to just have a conversation.

Don Johnson was/is playing on a level 99.99% of the members here have not and will never play on, where those mistakes mean HUGE money. Purposefully not signaling when doubling or splitting is just a dick move, and against the rules I believe as they always tell you to signal properly for the cameras. So you can 'claim' you "forgot" but if you didn't really and you do this frequently, I'd 100% call you out for it at the tables because you're wasting time when there of course comes the inevitable issue of 5-5 getting a 6 and you stating "No I wanted to split!" I'd look right at the PB and just say "he's been trying to do this since he sat down... cause confusion to try to game the system." Then the PB would tell you if you don't signal you're gone, rightfully so.
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