theoriemeister
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July 28th, 2017 at 10:48:28 AM permalink
I've made my own BS charts following yours and K. Walker's charts and I have a question about the final chart on your Spanish 21 page.

The final chart that shows the strategy for what to do once you've already doubled. For the game I'll be playing, I use the chart directly above the one in question, and it shows that for a player 5-7 one would double only v. dealer 6 and hit everything else. So, how can one re-double, say, a 6 v. dealer 3 when the BS says to hit--but not double--in the first place?

Theorie

edit: BS stands for Basic Strategy, not bullshit!! Now, I understand your comment Rigondeaux! lol
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July 28th, 2017 at 10:50:06 AM permalink
I was expecting a lot more hostility.
theoriemeister
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July 28th, 2017 at 11:01:09 AM permalink
From me? Why?
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July 28th, 2017 at 11:09:51 AM permalink
Yeah, I admit I peeked in, expecting something a lot different, lol.
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July 28th, 2017 at 11:13:36 AM permalink
Haha yep definitely thought I was going to need to grab some popcorn for this thread...
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July 28th, 2017 at 3:50:29 PM permalink
Quote: theoriemeister

I...how can one re-double, say, a 6 v. dealer 3 when the BS says to hit--but not double--in the first place?...

The wizard has answered similar questions on other Blackjack games where, essentially, similar anomalies occur - if you stuck to Basic Strategy why say what to do on places you can't get to.

The answer is that it caters for the situation where you've gone totally mad (or misread your cards) and now find yourself in a strange situation and saves the type of question well what do I do with this now. Sometimes it is better to state the obvious - for instance there is one game where having split Aces you would Double Down 21 - so in other games it's best to confirm you stand.

Meanwhile note that most of the time you would have split the 2's so couldn't have doubled the 4 to get to a three-card total of 6; and perhaps there should be a indication of what to do with 4 when you can't split anymore.
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July 28th, 2017 at 4:01:58 PM permalink
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July 28th, 2017 at 4:10:01 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I was expecting a lot more hostility.


I expected something different from the Panama BJ thread. Not hostility though.
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July 28th, 2017 at 4:32:02 PM permalink
Quote: theoriemeister

From me? Why?



BS usually stands for "bull's sh*t."
theoriemeister
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July 28th, 2017 at 8:00:19 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

BS usually stands for "bull's sh*t."



True, but I thought that in the blackjack forum, that would be evident, just like BJ in this forum does not stand for blowjob. :) However, henceforth I'll make sure to be explicit.
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July 28th, 2017 at 8:01:49 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

The wizard has answered similar questions on other Blackjack games where, essentially, similar anomalies occur - if you stuck to Basic Strategy why say what to do on places you can't get to.

The answer is that it caters for the situation where you've gone totally mad (or misread your cards) and now find yourself in a strange situation and saves the type of question well what do I do with this now. Sometimes it is better to state the obvious - for instance there is one game where having split Aces you would Double Down 21 - so in other games it's best to confirm you stand.

Meanwhile note that most of the time you would have split the 2's so couldn't have doubled the 4 to get to a three-card total of 6; and perhaps there should be a indication of what to do with 4 when you can't split anymore.



Thanks, Charlie, that makes sense.
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