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Please click the Perfect 11's link for the rules and my analysis. As usual, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.
The question for the poll is would you bet on the Perfect 11's if playing blackjack anyway?
P.S. I hope this is an infinity symbol: ∞
I think I would like the side bet, but only for the novelty, and only temporarily until bored. It's an impulse bet, so that makes sense. I think you make the bet just to use and see the device work.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI'd really like to see that dome they shoot the dice in. Do they set the dice any certain way or let them sit as they landed the last time? I'm picturing a bigger version of the little plastic device used in Trouble.
I haven't heard anyone mention that game in about 40 years, so I had to look up what the game looked like. Yep, pretty much a glorified version of that. However, the dome is about 8" high and the base vibrates pretty good, like in Bubble Craps. Seems like a fair shake to me.
Pass.
Yep.Quote: WizardP.S. I hope this is an infinity symbol: ∞
I think it was mentioned in threads when the bubble craps was first introduced - complete with the actual name.Quote: WizardI haven't heard anyone mention that game in about 40 years, so I had to look up what the game looked like.
:: nerd alert ::
It's called Pop-O-Matic!
Quote: DJTeddyBearJust another goofy side bet to get the little bitties all riled up if you don't play it and hit a paying hand.
Pass.
Yep.
I think it was mentioned in threads when the bubble craps was first introduced - complete with the actual name.
:: nerd alert ::
It's called Pop-O-Matic!
Good trivia question. I did remember that, fwiw. I found it fascinating when I was about 4. The commercials, in between Sat am cartoons, always made a big deal about that being in the game board.
Quote: beachbumbabsGood trivia question. I did remember that, fwiw. I found it fascinating when I was about 4. The commercials, in between Sat am cartoons, always made a big deal about that being in the game board.
Kids are always losing pieces to games. The built in pop-o-matic is not a bad idea.
Quote: WizardKids are always losing pieces to games. The built in pop-o-matic is not a bad idea.
Losing the dice isn't the problem with that game, Trouble. It's losing the game pieces that is.
If you held the bubble down when you pushed it you could control the die somewhat,or maybe I just thought i could control the die.
hehe... the fact that a side game with a $10+ usd minimum, and a 70% house edge can get a trial in Amsterdam is the reason legal weed is a bad thing.
Quote: AyecarumbaCorrection: The "Returns" are usually noted as negative values... unless this game has a 71% positive return..
When wins are on a "for one" basis, I typically express the bottom line as a return. For example, the return for 9/6 Jacks or Better is 99.54%. Seldom does anyone say it has a house edge of 0.46%. Since this game had a flat bet amount and wins were all "for one" I expressed the results in "return" form, as opposed to "expected value." So, just the fixed wins return 70%, not to mention all the progressives. So the house edge is at most 30%.
Quote: IbeatyouracesLosing the dice isn't the problem with that game, Trouble. It's losing the game pieces that is.
Speaking of toys with missing pieces, does anyone remember the Smash Up Derby Cars?
I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.
Quote: RigondeauxI probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.
That would be too easy.
Quote: RigondeauxWhat were your impressions of European casinos in general?
I plan to write about the two I visited. I enjoyed the casino in Amsterdam much more than the one in Brussels, mainly because the players in Brussels were so rude and mean. More details to come.
Quote:I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.
There was a continuous shuffler on the game.
Quote: Rigondeaux
I probably shouldn't post this. However, I would just keep a count on all of the cards that can be used to make an 11.
Isn't that all the cards?
Quote: tyler498Isn't that all the cards?
Touche! If they didn't use a continuous shuffler, I'd do something like this:
Ace: -8
2 to 9: +1
10's and faces: 0
I haven't done an effect of removal study, just making an educated guess.
Quote: tyler498Isn't that all the cards?
Yeah. It was a joke. Though smarter people might figure something out, like the wiz shows.
Quote: WizardTouche! If they didn't use a continuous shuffler, I'd do something like this:
Ace: -8
2 to 9: +1
10's and faces: 0
I haven't done an effect of removal study, just making an educated guess.
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Um, you see, I think that the only card that really counts is the Jackpot Ace. Given the (nominal) sizes of the progressive jackpots you report, and ignoring the mystery jackpot as you did, I calculate that if you bet the minimum and get halfway through the six deck shoe and the Jackpot Ace is not yet out then the player has about a 4% advantage over the house on this bet.
Here are some EOR calculations, these values are how much the player EV changes if you remove one of these cards from a six deck shoe.:
Jackpot Ace: - 0.1634
Other Ace: - 0.0098
King, Spades: - 0.0127
King, Other: -0.001781
2-Q: + 0.0019
The three caveats are:
- progressive jackpot sizes can be smaller (or larger) than what you posted
- given the fixed size of the progressive jackpots (independent of the size of your wager), these only apply to the minimum bet size of 10 euros.
- apparently, from your comment above, they may use a continuous shuffler, lol
