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Quote: IbeatyouracesHe can't handle the stresses of card counting. No way in hell he'd make it as an air traffic controller.
If I had a more comfortable bankroll say 80-90k I wouldn't even stress the losses. I also always have a feeling I'm getting cheated after every loss. The last thing I trust is this corrupt industry run by greedy casino scum who have no.morals. Why would anyone give the benefit of doubt to these people? This is the last industry you would trust to not cheat their customers.
Quote: ZenKinGIf I had a more comfortable bankroll say 80-90k I wouldn't even stress the losses. I also always have a feeling I'm getting cheated after every loss. The last thing I trust is this corrupt industry run by greedy casino scum who have no.morals. Why would anyone give the benefit of doubt to these people? This is the last industry you would trust to not cheat their customers.
I've never been cheated by them.
There are many reasons why many of us left card counting. #1, it's a waste of time when there is much easier money to be made in casinos in a lot less time with a lot less work.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI've never been cheated by them.
There are many reasons why many of us left card counting. #1, it's a waste of time when there is much easier money to be made in casinos in a lot less time with a lot less work.
Yeah well, its hard to find these opportunities when you're first starting off. I don't even know where to look. Everyone always talks about rebates/promotions on machine play or hole carding BJ or carnival games, but to me all of that seems to be a bit or heavily exaggerated. I mean there's people who claim they make six figures on machines. I will say this though, ace sequencing seems to be a viable skill to have and i think ASMs and CSMs can be sequenced. I don't believe its all that random. I tested some sequencing with some short term anecdotal data on an ASM once and the ace came out as expected
Quote: ZenKinGYeah well, its hard to find these opportunities when you're first starting off. I don't even know where to look. Everyone always talks about rebates/promotions on machine play or hole carding BJ or carnival games, but to me all of that seems to be a bit or heavily exaggerated. I mean there's people who claim they make six figures on machines. I will say this though, ace sequencing seems to be a viable skill to have and i think ASMs and CSMs can be sequenced. I don't believe its all that random. I tested some sequencing with some short term anecdotal data on an ASM once and the ace came out as expected
Keep your eyes open and add them to your arsenal. No need to do them full time, but they help when running bad elsewhere.
Quote: ZenKinGYeah well, its hard to find these opportunities when you're first starting off. I don't even know where to look. Everyone always talks about rebates/promotions on machine play or hole carding BJ or carnival games, but to me all of that seems to be a bit or heavily exaggerated. I mean there's people who claim they make six figures on machines. I will say this though, ace sequencing seems to be a viable skill to have and i think ASMs and CSMs can be sequenced. I don't believe its all that random. I tested some sequencing with some short term anecdotal data on an ASM once and the ace came out as expected
I personally know 8 people who are making 6+ figures APing. Several others who I suspect are doing at least that, but I don't know their business well enough to vouch for them (and i don't know all that many).
Guess what? None of the ones I know well are counting bj. Several of them are on here. And you're failing the job interview to this point. Assuming you are hoping to network, anyway .
Might want to try some rainbows and unicorns after all. Not saying you can't do it Your Way, but why make it so hard for yourself? Sometimes optimistic determination is all you have going.
"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours. " - Richard Bach
And you will probably never really find out unless you change your demeanor and attitude.Quote: ZenKinGYeah well, its hard to find these opportunities when you're first starting off. I don't even know where to look. Everyone always talks about rebates/promotions on machine play or hole carding BJ or carnival games, but to me all of that seems to be a bit or heavily exaggerated. I mean there's people who claim they make six figures on machines. I will say this though, ace sequencing seems to be a viable skill to have and i think ASMs and CSMs can be sequenced. I don't believe its all that random. I tested some sequencing with some short term anecdotal data on an ASM once and the ace came out as expected
What do you think when you watch Michael Morgenstern's videos? Do you cringe, do yo think he's a joke, an idiot, full of sh*t?
Now just imagine that people who have been following you here on WOV are thinking the same kinds of things about you, all be it to a lesser extent, but I think you get my point. There is a reason 90% of the comments are basically negative towards you. I can only imagine If this forum didn't have personal attack rules.
I'm with you on the karma and positive attitude BS, however, if your negative attitude affects the things you say and do, that certainly can't be good.
I doubt 90k would set your mind at ease, it just doesn't work that way. Once you get to 90k you will not be happy/at ease until you have 140k and so on, and so on.
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It's one thing enjoying AP, being excited and happy doing it, but you seem obsessed with BJ to the point that it's not mentally healthy.
Quote: ZenKinGIf I had a more comfortable bankroll say 80-90k I wouldn't even stress the losses. I also always have a feeling I'm getting cheated after every loss. The last thing I trust is this corrupt industry run by greedy casino scum who have no.morals. Why would anyone give the benefit of doubt to these people? This is the last industry you would trust to not cheat their customers.
Ok who had 3 days in vegas before someone was cheating him?
PA and NV cheat. You should have stopped at one of the indian places and see what they do.
Quote: ZenKinGYeah well, its hard to find these opportunities when you're first starting off. I don't even know where to look. Everyone always talks about rebates/promotions on machine play or hole carding BJ or carnival games, but to me all of that seems to be a bit or heavily exaggerated. I mean there's people who claim they make six figures on machines. I will say this though, ace sequencing seems to be a viable skill to have and i think ASMs and CSMs can be sequenced. I don't believe its all that random. I tested some sequencing with some short term anecdotal data on an ASM once and the ace came out as expected
Here is an example of Ace Sequencing that happened to me this morning. Now I am sure everyone on here is gonna give me a hard time because when I post things like this they tell me I am hurting my EV because some executive is searching every post on here to catch full pay mistakes. You can play this game on point days right now even at the quarter level and make your return 100.4% flat. Now add in some mail and comps and you should be able to get to 101% return. All you need to do is follow the strategy and go search that free VP site that shows you most of the machines in town and start playing and wait for your mail to roll in. I deleted all my PMs to you cause I just am not sure if you would even want to mess about with machines and I have never met anyone off of this site yet. I also have a hard time meeting people that I know so it is even harder for me to meet someone that I only know from this site. I guess the best way to meet me is to tell me you want to buy my comp. I'd show up for that lol!!
Now just in the last 4 years I can tell you two plays that went off. One was with double royals downtown that lasted for about 8 months and another was near Sams Town that was another double royal scenario that lasted for a few months. Both plays were low risk to no risk netting me around 100k cash plus comps, tourneys, drawings... etc etc. These don't pop up all the time but they do pop up and you have to get used to looking at billboards and looking for promotions on websites and what not. This is very small potatoes compared to what these real AP pros do on here but it is something that I am sharing once again for free to help someone out there or hurt all of us in the long run. Either way I still do come on here to share and learn. If you weren't so aggressively hostile in your posts I would feel more comfortable taking you out to the steak house!
Yes another rant and don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me and not looking for pity. Just want everyone to know how cursed I am. At least I'm having a GREAT TIME in this WONDERFUL CITY(sarcasm)
Quote: ZenKinGSigh... The losses continue to pile up. Currently down 6k in 15 hours ever since I got here to vegas. Unreal. You just couldn't script it any better. Out of all the possible hours, this big losing streak in such a short time had to strike at this exact moment. Keep in mind that this type of loss in such a short time happened maybe once or twice in my 850 hours of play and for it to coincide excafly when I get to vegas just frustrates the hell out of me.
Yes another rant and don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me and not looking for pity. Just want everyone to know how cursed I am. At least I'm having a GREAT TIME in this WONDERFUL CITY(sarcasm)
This city or lifestyle might not be for you. You sound like you need something safer in life with guarantees. Also your betting pretty good sized bets. Being down 6k isn't hard to imagine and why can't you win back 6k next week. Don't forget you will get some mailers for these losses.
Quote: ZenKinGAt least I'm having a GREAT TIME in this WONDERFUL CITY(sarcasm)
Quote: monet0412This city or lifestyle might not be for you. You sound like you need something safer in life with guarantees. Also your betting pretty good sized bets. Being down 6k isn't hard to imagine and why can't you win back 6k next week. Don't forget you will get some mailers for these losses.
No, he said he was going to play unrated. Too smart to give the casinos his information.
Quote: monet0412I came to town with no cash, hitchhiking, no place to live and not even close to your knowledge. The difference with me is that I never quit. I would go broke all the time but eventually I slowly started to figure things out. Your in such good shape it's sickening to me to think that you feel so cursed with over a 40k bankroll and car to boot. Get a gym membership and live in your car if you have to! That worked for me when I didn't want to pay rent.
You probably found a job since you had no cash. You make it sound like you had it hard as well. I didnt have cash at one point either, but guess what, i did the same thing as you likely did and worked my ass off. I worked two jobs and then played blackjack as much as i could to grow my roll. Of course I can go get a job and supplement it with BJ and actually would probably be the smart move. Right now and the plan the whole time was to save up enough, which I did where i then can just come to town and count. With the hours I put in before this, i already knew the swings of the game and ive dropped far worse than 6k before, but maybe only once or twice(gotta check my past log) in such a short span; im just angry at the fact of the exact timing. It's like the variance just waited for me to get to vegas and now i start losing.
Thats why I say im cursed. There's some serious divine intervention going on. Im pretty sure im cursed. I say that becasue it's not just blackjack ive had to overcome in my life. I've pretty much got the short end of the stick my whole life. I couldve gone pro in soccer, but i tore up my knee 3 times in 4 years, go figure. Wont even go into detail into that, but again horrible timing right before college and once during college. I then had a doctor lie to me that my knee needed another ACL surgery, but luckily i didnt sign off on it and waited to see how i felt and what do you know, my ACL was never torn and have played soccer ever since. Dont even get me started on wasting 4 years of college and not being able to find a job (Info that could result in personal information being found removed by Mission146 per request of ZenKinG) LOL. im done. Yes I can go on and on about my past failures and 'luck'. Im really surprised i still have my two arms and legs at this point(knock on wood)
Quote: ZenKinG
Thats why I say im cursed. There's some serious divine intervention going on. Im pretty sure im cursed. I say that becasue it's not just blackjack ive had to overcome in my life. I've pretty much got the short end of the stick my whole life.
The NYPD officer who related this story was on mobile patrol with his partner in Manhattan when their portable radiation detector registered a 52 millirad source in the area. PRD’s will register 350-750 micro rads, when someone who had a nuclear stress test within the past 24 hours is nearby. This reading was much higher than that.
They narrowed their search for the source to a young man sitting on a bench at a bus stop.
When questioned, he refused to cooperate with the officers, and when one of the officers asked to see what was in his duffle bag, he pulled it away and clutched it against his shoulder.
The second officer who had positioned himself behind the young man, tore the duffle bag from his grasp and opened it. Nothing but a change of clothing.
The young man then told his story. He was just discharged from Sloan Kettering where he had received radiation treatment. He was seventeen years old and he had only five months to live.
You're young, and you only have your experience. Thus, you have no perspective. You don't realize how good of a position you're in, how set up you are, and how momentary and unimportant these 15 hours and $6k are. If you fully trusted the math, and had a truly winning game, you just wouldn't care as much. You'd just keep grinding out the hours and watch the profits start to come in. After all, it's just math.
As far as other opportunities. My team made 6 figures last year as well, with ZERO blackjack (and full time jobs). To sit there and say it seems a bit too "heavy" or "complicated" is just another way of saying "I don't know so I'm going to pretend it's really hard and avoid putting in the extra work to figure it out." Which is fine... I think those that put the work in should be rewarded, so if someone doesn't want to put the work in to extra scouting/learning/etc then they shouldn't be rewarded with the easier money. For what it's worth, the promotions/machines/HC/etc are not over exaggerated. We had hundreds of hours this past year where the EV was $1k-$2k per hour... and I started off just card counting, for a very long time.
Some kids get all the breaks.
Quote: Romes...15 hour "big" losing streak? Excuse me while I LOL. When you get to the 300 hour mark and you're still slightly in the red, THEN you can complain about a "big" losing streak.
You're young, and you only have your experience. Thus, you have no perspective. You don't realize how good of a position you're in, how set up you are, and how momentary and unimportant these 15 hours and $6k are. If you fully trusted the math, and had a truly winning game, you just wouldn't care as much. You'd just keep grinding out the hours and watch the profits start to come in. After all, it's just math.
Ok
As far as other opportunities. My team made 6 figures last year as well, with ZERO blackjack (and full time jobs). To sit there and say it seems a bit too "heavy" or "complicated" is just another way of saying "I don't know so I'm going to pretend it's really hard and avoid putting in the extra work to figure it out." Which is fine... I think those that put the work in should be rewarded, so if someone doesn't want to put the work in to extra scouting/learning/etc then they shouldn't be rewarded with the easier money. For what it's worth, the promotions/machines/HC/etc are not over exaggerated. We had hundreds of hours this past year where the EV was $1k-$2k per hour... and I started off just card counting, for a very long time.
Yes you and many others have done well BUT you are not cursed.If you had a curse on you like Zenking then you would be losing. I'm so thankful that I also don't have the curse.
Perhaps Zenking should vist one of the local psychics to tell him how to remove the curse.
Quote: Romes...15 hour "big" losing streak? Excuse me while I LOL. When you get to the 300 hour mark and you're still slightly in the red, THEN you can complain about a "big" losing streak.
You're young, and you only have your experience. Thus, you have no perspective. You don't realize how good of a position you're in, how set up you are, and how momentary and unimportant these 15 hours and $6k are. If you fully trusted the math, and had a truly winning game, you just wouldn't care as much. You'd just keep grinding out the hours and watch the profits start to come in. After all, it's just math.
As far as other opportunities. My team made 6 figures last year as well, with ZERO blackjack (and full time jobs). To sit there and say it seems a bit too "heavy" or "complicated" is just another way of saying "I don't know so I'm going to pretend it's really hard and avoid putting in the extra work to figure it out." Which is fine... I think those that put the work in should be rewarded, so if someone doesn't want to put the work in to extra scouting/learning/etc then they shouldn't be rewarded with the easier money. For what it's worth, the promotions/machines/HC/etc are not over exaggerated. We had hundreds of hours this past year where the EV was $1k-$2k per hour... and I started off just card counting, for a very long time.
Well Romes I hate to say it, but you misunderstood what I said. I didn't mean a 'losing streak' per se because 15 hours is nothing, I meant losing a big amount compared to my bet size in such a short amount of time. I also hope you know I went through a 400 hour losing streak where after 400 hours I was slightly in the red mid session. I was up about 25k first 250 hours or so and the next 150 hours I got absolutely clobbered, dropped all of my profit and went slightly in the red, so yes I know what a 'losing streak' is. After that horrific streak, I made 41k in the next 400 hours.
My point is, I know the swings of the game, I'm just mad and annoyed at the fact of the timing of all of this and the fact that a 6k loss in 15 hours rarely happens as well. I only experienced maybe one other time or twice in those 850 hours that I have played in the last year and a half.
Hmmm, given your previously reported TC betting ramp, I'm showing an average bet of 'about' $90. Of course this number could change a bit pending PEN, TC Frequencies/etc/etc/etc, so let's just round it at $100 for easy viewing.Quote: ZenKinG...My point is, I know the swings of the game, I'm just mad and annoyed at the fact of the timing of all of this and the fact that a 6k loss in 15 hours rarely happens as well. I only experienced maybe one other time or twice in those 850 hours that I have played in the last year and a half.
AvgBet = $100
AvgAdv = 1.5%
OriginalSD = 1.15*AvgBet = 115
How many hands per hour would you say you're getting? Let's pretend you're getting 100 hands per hour (decent rate).
EV(15 hours) = (1500*100)*(.015) = $2,250
SD(15 hours) = ~$4,450
Roughly 1SD down = 2,250 - 4450 = -2200
Roughly 2SD down = 2,250 - 8900 = -6650
So yes, being just under 2SD down can be upsetting (shouldn't be to a pro - it happens), but it's not that hideously unlikely given the SMALL sampling size you have. You must remember your sampling size... 2SD down at 15 hours means nothing at all. In all fairness, I don't even consider you down nearly 2SD because I wouldn't even consider 15 hours worth a look at results. Thus why my advice to you has consistently been: play more hands. Get that sample size up and watch the math work itself out. Especially since you've had a long 400 hour losing streak before, you should have the experience to know it doesn't matter at this point. The $6k doesn't matter. Just playing more and more hands should be your only concern at this point.
I find it odd that on most sites when people lose in BJ they want to take a break/quit/etc (not saying you specifically ZK), whereas whenever I was losing in BJ it made me want to play MORE and MORE to get more hands because I knew the problem was time, not money (again, that $6k doesn't matter). I just needed more time to get in more hands and the ship would right itself.
Quote: RomesHmmm, given your previously reported TC betting ramp, I'm showing an average bet of 'about' $90. Of course this number could change a bit pending PEN, TC Frequencies/etc/etc/etc, so let's just round it at $100 for easy viewing.
AvgBet = $100
AvgAdv = 1.5%
OriginalSD = 1.15*AvgBet = 115
How many hands per hour would you say you're getting? Let's pretend you're getting 100 hands per hour (decent rate).
EV(15 hours) = (1500*100)*(.015) = $2,250
SD(15 hours) = ~$4,450
Roughly 1SD down = 2,250 - 4450 = -2200
Roughly 2SD down = 2,250 - 8900 = -6650
So yes, being just under 2SD down can be upsetting (shouldn't be to a pro - it happens), but it's not that hideously unlikely given the SMALL sampling size you have. You must remember your sampling size... 2SD down at 15 hours means nothing at all. In all fairness, I don't even consider you down nearly 2SD because I wouldn't even consider 15 hours worth a look at results. Thus why my advice to you has consistently been: play more hands. Get that sample size up and watch the math work itself out. Especially since you've had a long 400 hour losing streak before, you should have the experience to know it doesn't matter at this point. The $6k doesn't matter. Just playing more and more hands should be your only concern at this point.
I find it odd that on most sites when people lose in BJ they want to take a break/quit/etc (not saying you specifically ZK), whereas whenever I was losing in BJ it made me want to play MORE and MORE to get more hands because I knew the problem was time, not money (again, that $6k doesn't matter). I just needed more time to get in more hands and the ship would right itself.
The thing is, I'm not getting 100 RDS an hour. More like 60-70. I would say I'm closer to 3SD down and for it coincide exactly when I get here is the really frustrating part. Also now with living expenses, i feel a bit more pressure to perform cause there's always a doubt in the back of my mind the math won't correct itself in time. I also think you got my average bet wrong. It should be higher, but if it is higher I guess that would bring it closer to 2 SD anyway.
The lower rounds per hour will definitely hurt your EV though... With 65 hands per hour:Quote: ZenKinGThe thing is, I'm not getting 100 RDS an hour. More like 60-70. I would say I'm closer to 3SD down and for it coincide exactly when I get here is the really frustrating part. Also now with living expenses, i feel a bit more pressure to perform cause there's always a doubt in the back of my mind the math won't correct itself in time. I also think you got my average bet wrong. It should be higher, but if it is higher I guess that would bring it closer to 2 SD anyway.
EV(15 hours) = (975*100)*(.015) = $1,463, nearly 35% less than the previous EV I figured. This should be hole #1 you patch up.
SD(15 hours) = $3590
1SD down = -$2127
2SD down = -$5717
This moves the mark a very tiny bit, and to boot it still all comes back to sampling size. Before I thought your 15 hours represented 1500 hands (still an erroneous amount). Now that your 15 hours only represents ~975 hands that's ALL THE MORE REASON to ignore the short term results. Keep playing, get more hands... and figure out a way to get more hands per hour.
Quote: CalderAs someone claiming to be so concerned about anonymity, you might consider deleting some easily google-able information in an earlier post.
If his claim is real it took me 30 seconds to find his name and info.
Quote: GWAEIf his claim is real it took me 30 seconds to find his name and info.
Seems odd... that American who went to Berlin and got second place in FIFA got 5k for second and that seems to be the only time for Berlin in FIFA finals. Another hole in this year long story. That picture though looks just like the ZenKing I imagine.
I'd like to know how ZenKing goes to the BJ tables and looks like a ploppie. Pretty tough when your playing alone and sweating the action. Has to be even more difficult when your upset about being down 6k and the rent is due!!
Do you do the old chug a beer in front of the pit boss that is really NA beer... order a shot and slam it too?
Quote: monet0412Seems odd... that American who went to Berlin and got second place in FIFA got 5k for second and that seems to be the only time for Berlin in FIFA finals. Another hole in this year long story. That picture though looks just like the ZenKing I imagine.
I'd like to know how ZenKing goes to the BJ tables and looks like a ploppie. Pretty tough when your playing alone and sweating the action. Has to be even more difficult when your upset about being down 6k and the rent is due!!
Do you do the old chug a beer in front of the pit boss that is really NA beer... order a shot and slam it too?
Lost another 1400. That puts me at -7400 since I got here. Im 100% convinced Caesars and Bellagio are fukin rigged. This is why I say I'm the best. The amount of adversity it takes to beat me is hilarious. Out of every possible time I could've lost this amount, it had to HAPPEN EXACTLY when I get to vegas. God bless me, seriously. 16.5 hours -7400 betting 2x250. 3 SD anyone? Hahahaha. Only happens to the best.
ADDED: Any questions or insinuations that ZenKing is lying about what he has to say, unless definitively provable, will also result in a ban as his legitimacy is not the subject matter of this thread.
ALSO ADDED: The insult in question was removed from ZK's post, presumably by him. Just pointing that out so nobody thinks I warned him for no reason.
Quote: Mission146That'll be enough of the personal insults, I get that you're upset about your run since getting to Vegas, but the next one is a ban.
ADDED: Any questions or insinuations that ZenKing is lying about what he has to say, unless definitively provable, will also result in a ban as his legitimacy is not the subject matter of this thread.
The only fake person is KJ(kewljason). This guy doesn't exist. No ones ever met him. He is definitely a casino executive telling everyone to come here and get rigged out by these rigged casinos. Let me know when these casinos show the cards. Until then this whole city is rigged.
Then having multiple $8k losses in a row betting $300 a hand on TCP with a 3%+ edge.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI remember winning just shy of $2k playing just one $50 minimum bet shoe only to come back the next day and lose $8800.
Then having multiple $8k losses in a row betting $300 a hand on TCP with a 3%+ edge.
Do you know anyone that's ever been backed off or barred from Caesars, Bellagio, or MGM for counting? I'm convinced they're in the gaming commissions pocket. These are not legit 6 deck games being offered. I have literally never won at Caesars or any of their sister properties. I've heard of people complain about MGM properties as well and I never won at those either
Yes, and not because he may go broke. Normally I ignore any personal achievement claims such as he made until I get to know someone better or know their reputation is solid. So I was a bit confused when GWAE said he was able to find his information in seconds.Quote: billryanGood thing you have a weekly lease.
ZENKING. If what you are saying is true, I would beg the mods to take what you said down, and I WOULD MOVE ASAP. You have told a public forum that you don't like banks, you have 10's of thousands in cash, what kind of place you are staying, approximate location, what kinda car you drive, and now they have a pic, your age, and full name.
FACEPALM X10 !!!
Quote: ZenKinGDo you know anyone that's ever been backed off or barred from Caesars, Bellagio, or MGM for counting? I'm convinced they're in the gaming commissions pocket. These are not legit 6 deck games being offered. I have literally never won at Caesars or any of their sister properties. I've heard of people complain about MGM properties as well and I never won at those either
I hate to say this, but you're not cut out for this. You can and WILL lose for long periods of time. Naturally it's going to suck worse when just starting out, or in a new location.
As I said, I lost $8800 in one day betting $50-$400.
Quote: ZenKinGIm pretty sure im cursed.
Cursed at, I could believe.
Quote: ZenKinGThe only fake person is KJ(kewljason). This guy doesn't exist. No ones ever met him. He is definitely a casino executive telling everyone to come here and get rigged out by these rigged casinos. Let me know when these casinos show the cards. Until then this whole city is rigged.
Granted, since KewlJ is Nuked he's not protected by the rule against Personal Insults, but this post is flat out unnecessary. I don't see what he has to do with any of this.
I've also never known him to convince anyone to do anything. The only thing I've ever known him to do is share good advice with aspiring and new card counters.
Quote: AxelWolfYes, and not because he may go broke. Normally I ignore any personal achievement claims such as he made until I get to know someone better or know their reputation is solid. So I was a bit confused when GWAE said he was able to find his information in seconds.
ZENKING. If what you are saying is true, I would beg the mods to take that you said down and I WOULD MOVE ASAP. You have told a public forum that you don't like banks, you have 10's of thousands in cash, what kind of place you are staying, approximate location, what kinda car you drive, and now they have a pic, your age and full name.
FACEPALM X10 !!!
Well the good thing is no one knows where I'm staying. I had one person recommend me a place but I never ended up staying at that place either although I was close. The other good thing is I already lost most of the cash I came with and I deposited the res before the long road trip. Yes I don't like banks but I sucked it up and did a big CTR before the road trip. Most of my cash is banked and it looks like I'm gonna just deposit the rest and just get a job. Vegas is rigged. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Bellagio needs the extra edge with a short deck to pay for that fountain outside. I'll also never forget years ago when I visited once and said out loud 'Caesars cheats' and the pit boss turned around and said to me "It's all legal right"? Don't even care if he was sarcastic, cause it makes no sense to reply with what he said. What the hell does he mean "Its all legal"? F***ing rigged
It's RIGGED and you are CURSED? WOW, You really are F****D then!Quote: ZenKinGWell the good thing is no one knows where I'm staying. I had one person recommend me a place but I never ended up staying at that place either although I was close. The other good thing is I already lost most of the cash I came with and I deposited the res before the long road trip. Yes I don't like banks but I sucked it up and did a big CTR before the road trip. Most of my cash is banked and it looks like I'm gonna just deposit the rest and just get a job. Vegas is rigged. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Bellagio needs the extra edge with a short deck to pay for that fountain outside. I'll also never forget years ago when I visited once and said out loud 'Caesars cheats' and the pit boss turned around and said to me "It's all legal right"? Don't even care if he was sarcastic, cause it makes no sense to with what he said. What the hell does he mean "Its all legal"? F***ing rigged
Please refrain from using that bad 3 letter word around here unless you add nut before it.
My advice to him is just to step back for a couple days and try not to even think about Blackjack. Plenty to do in Vegas. Have a few drinks, maybe find a decent nickel video poker game, go see the Grand Canyon. Anything, really. Just step back until he's back in the right frame of mind.
I'm honestly here rooting for you unlike some people. I just feel like your attitude is making it very easy for some people to egg you on and troll you. You made a tough choice by moving to Vegas. That's more than some people could ever say they have done in their whole lifetime. With that being said, why don't you take the negative energy out, make an honest effort again, and give yourself a few more rounds. Draw a line in the sand and decide to quit when you hit that point. I've said this before, but some of my AP friends did not particularly enjoy their lives in Vegas. It was a means to survive without actually "working." You're still young, and you have a college degree. Don't waste it. I'd hate to see you lose your whole bankroll. Just know when to fold if you feel like it's not working out. You don't have to prove anything to anybody in this forum. This is your life. Good luck.
Right now I'm miserable, I just traveled all the way cross country 2500 miles by MYSELF for nothing. I can't enjoy myself if my bankroll is going in the gutter. I pride myself on working hard, I've worked two jobs in the past to build up my roll to get this blackjack thing going and grinded out tons of hours simulataneously while working and eventually left my jobs and grinded out 800 hours. You guys don't even understand how much work I've put into this to finally get this counting thing going and to date all I've been labeled is a troll and that I don't exist.
I got up to 60k, moved here and now down to 50k in a flash after all expenses and rent as well as the 7500 loss. If maybe you guys who claim to be so experienced can see what I'm going through and actually offer solid advice, that would be appreciated. I've been completely stressed out even before the road trip because of the cops and getting my bankroll seized. I end up not getting my bankroll seized, and now I go through this ridiculous downswing right at the wrong time. I've gotten ZERO support from this forum and now I'm the bad guy and am being warned that I will get banned. I'm just lost for words, don't even want to post on here anymore
Now, you asked me to Edit a post that you made with information that could compromise your privacy and I have Edited that post. To insinuate that you're not getting fair treatment here is absurd.
You have the support of multiple Forum Members, myself included. My advice is you're not currently in the right state of mind to try to count cards because you are taking a semi-routine loss very, very badly. You said you've encountered worse losses, but it sure doesn't sound like it with these claims that you're cursed and all these games are rigged.
You're upset, I get it. You've lost a non-insubstantial percentage of your bankroll in just a few days, I understand that, too. I don't expect you to be happy right now, and I don't think anyone would.
But, you've got to do something to clear your head before you get back out there because if you play angry, desperate or upset you will make mistakes that will cost you EV. If your posts are truly representative of your current state of mind, then you need to take a couple days off to clear your head.
