lilredrooster
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August 18th, 2016 at 2:41:09 AM permalink
Entitled the Law for Gamblers. Nersesian is widely considered to be the foremost attorney for APs who have had disputes with casinos. The book would probably be useful to every AP who will probably at some time in their career have a difficult dispute with a casino.


https://www.amazon.com/Law-Gamblers-Legal-Casino-Environment/dp/1935396625
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August 18th, 2016 at 4:37:42 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

The book would probably be useful to every AP who will probably at some time in their career have a difficult dispute with a casino.


The book should be read by EVERYONE who enters any casino.

Consider:
The Wizard once arrived at a casino utterly unaware of it being the tail end of a Tribal Revolt involving fifty shotgun toting New Tribal Police who had attempted to seize the casino.

One man protested his slot machine malfunctioned, half a dozen security guards pounced on him. He was right, but he was almost dead right.

In these days of untrained security guards anyone can be a victim of over zealous idiots who are utterly without a sense of values or any common sense.

Untrained dealers, poorly trained guards, drunken patrons ... its a mine field that you are playing in.
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August 18th, 2016 at 7:07:09 AM permalink
There is an exact thread like this already- dark oz posted it- maybe mods can combine them as its a great topic
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August 20th, 2016 at 12:41:22 AM permalink
Really interesting written reviews by the Amazon.com customers.
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August 20th, 2016 at 8:08:44 AM permalink
Quote: Wino

Really interesting written reviews by the Amazon.com customers.


From one of the reviews and I cannot stress this statement about Indian casinos enough!!

"Nersesian also has advice for those gambling in Indian casinos: Don't. They enjoy a a great degree of freedom from US Federal law, and the players who find themselves being denied their fair winnings at a casino sitting on Indian land is basically SOL."
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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August 20th, 2016 at 8:16:55 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

From one of the reviews and I cannot stress this statement about Indian casinos enough!!

"Nersesian also has advice for those gambling in Indian casinos: Don't. They enjoy a a great degree of freedom from US Federal law, and the players who find themselves being denied their fair winnings at a casino sitting on Indian land is basically SOL."

So you would never play or suggest anyone (AP's) at an Indian casino?

I seem to remember you saying something something about playing at Indian casinos before.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 20th, 2016 at 8:21:24 AM permalink
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So you would never play or suggest anyone (AP's) at an Indian casino?

I seem to remember you saying something something about playing at Indian casinos before.


Not AP'ing. And if you do, keep your head on swivel 10x as much as normal and be prepared to get off the premises as fast as possible.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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August 21st, 2016 at 2:43:52 AM permalink
How in-depth does the author go into Civil Forfeiture? That's what I'm interested in.
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August 21st, 2016 at 2:53:45 AM permalink
Indian casinos are a bitch-
I've run into some problems on actual rules on games and been surrounded by 4 tribal
Members gaming authorities when I pushed the issue which was 100 percent black and white and it was never resolved other then I was intimidated and made to feel unwelcome
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August 21st, 2016 at 5:21:32 AM permalink
I reviewed this as part of my book series (thanks for pointing that out WON)

Here is the link for those interested. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/26069-the-law-for-gamblers/
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August 21st, 2016 at 6:19:31 AM permalink
I ordered the book on Amazon last week. Will give my review shortly after it arrives.
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August 21st, 2016 at 7:35:33 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Not AP'ing. And if you do, keep your head on swivel 10x as much as normal and be prepared to get off the premises as fast as possible.

I think it's all about risk VS reward and not all Indian casino's are the same. I'm sure there are some that are absolutely brutal and some that are just as good as any NV casino. There's been good plays in Indian casino's, some that lasted a long time without any problems.

I wouldn't pass up a good opportunity just because they can sometimes be difficult.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 21st, 2016 at 11:09:22 PM permalink
agreed
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