FPVpilot
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:04:46 PM permalink
Hi all,

Three-Part Question:

PART 1:

I was wondering about a theoretical situation in six-deck Blackjack where
the player knew what every card coming his way would be and what the house advantage
(or would it be the player's advantage now?) would be in this scenario?

PART 2:

What would the house (or player) advantage be in a different situation where the player knew both of
the dealer's cards in advance, but not what cards were coming the player's way? A more realistic scenario given a rogue dealer...

PART 3:

What would the player advantage be (it must surely be in the player's advantage at this point!) in the awesome and magical situation where the player knew both of the dealer's cards in advance and also all the
cards that would come the player's way?

Thanks!
Wizardofnothing
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:10:54 PM permalink
Knowing both dealer cards give the player less then a 10 percent edge
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:13:33 PM permalink
Playing perfectly with the best rules and insurance, over 13% for #2.

Realistically, about 8% playing discreetly.
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:20:24 PM permalink
Perfect yes, but that would be hitting 19s into a 20. You would be done in a couple hands doing that
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:28:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Perfect yes, but that would be hitting 19s into a 20. You would be done in a couple hands doing that


That's why I put the discrete part in.
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July 11th, 2016 at 7:29:31 PM permalink
I see
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FPVpilot
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July 11th, 2016 at 8:44:20 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Perfect yes, but that would be hitting 19s into a 20. You would be done in a couple hands doing that



That would be really funny to see the dealer's (assuming he's not in on it) and the other players' reactions to that!!! ;P If the cards were marked, scenario #2 would be possible...
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July 11th, 2016 at 10:40:27 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Perfect yes, but that would be hitting 19s into a 20. You would be done in a couple hands doing that


Let me add to this....ideally, you'd surrender 19 to a 20. You can try the "assume a ten in the hole" routine.
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July 12th, 2016 at 6:47:22 AM permalink
You scenarios involve a couple real life situations... hole carding, and next carding. Since the dealer flips up their top card, all you need to know is the 1 bottom card. With perfect play I believe the edge is about 13%, but this is for perfect play which is unlikely. While it might be tempting to surrender your 18 vs a known 19, or hit it, you simply can't as it will draw more attention to you than you want. Most amateurs will do wild moves and hit/surrender this situation instead of just eating the one time loss and moving on to the next on their great game to play.

Simply look up the terms I've given you and you can find all of your answers =). Gonna make you dig a little!
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