Crazy dealer hand
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May 3rd, 2015 at 9:21:33 AM
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I was recently victim of this dealer hand . I stayed with hard 18, dealer showing a 2. Dealer's hand ended up
2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 for 20. Anyone know the odds of pulling a 10 card 20?
2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 for 20. Anyone know the odds of pulling a 10 card 20?
May 3rd, 2015 at 9:27:43 AM
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can't do the math but do know two things:
*I have observed that "only the dealer can do that" ... i.e. can draw that many cards and not bust. To a creepy degree [but I admit it must be selective memory]
*I would sure stay with that shoe and increase my bet too, unless it was CSM and maybe even then
*I have observed that "only the dealer can do that" ... i.e. can draw that many cards and not bust. To a creepy degree [but I admit it must be selective memory]
*I would sure stay with that shoe and increase my bet too, unless it was CSM and maybe even then
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May 3rd, 2015 at 10:18:59 AM
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Quote: odiousgambit
*I would sure stay with that shoe and increase my bet too, unless it was CSM and maybe even then
What? Why? You just saw 3 aces come out.
May 3rd, 2015 at 10:41:54 AM
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Quote: DonutsWhat? Why? You just saw 3 aces come out.
He also saw 7 small cards come out as well, and no 10s.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
May 3rd, 2015 at 11:22:54 AM
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more info requiredQuote: tokearooI was recently victim of this dealer hand . I stayed with hard 18, dealer showing a 2. Dealer's hand ended up
2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 for 20. Anyone know the odds of pulling a 10 card 20?
to
calculate
exactly
or
estimate
with
a
small
error
likes...
how many decks
csm?
where in the shoe did this occur
and on and on
for example
playing single deck BJ
the prob of the dealer pulling this hand = 0
sure, some say I "have a Smat_ss and Know-It-All approach"
hehe
next in line
Sally
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May 3rd, 2015 at 11:30:40 AM
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5 twos in a single deck dealer hand, wouldn't surprise me if it happened to me. Otherwise highly unlikely...
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 3rd, 2015 at 3:14:14 PM
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How many decks? Did the dealer hit or stand on soft 17?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
May 3rd, 2015 at 3:30:59 PM
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Quote: tokearooAnyone know the odds of pulling a 10 card 20?
For 2 decks, H17, it's 3721057588-to-1.
For 6 decks, H17, it's 861604314-to-1.
For 8 decks, H17, it's 740079857-to-1.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 4:34:30 PM
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Quote: teliotFor 2 decks, H17, it's 3721057588-to-1.
For 6 decks, H17, it's 861604314-to-1.
For 8 decks, H17, it's 740079857-to-1.
I think for one deck, stand on soft17, it is 160,751,859,009 to 1 That's 160 billion to one.
The first 5 cards must be 2-2-2-2-3 in any order, followed by A-A-A-A followed by 5, or,
2-2-2-2-4 in any order, followed by A-A-A-A followed by 4, or,
2-2-2-3-3 in any order, followed by A-A-A-A followed by 4.
For one deck, hit on soft 17, I don't see any additional combinations to make a 10-card 20. Have I missed something?
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
May 3rd, 2015 at 4:52:02 PM
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Quote: gordonm888...Have I missed something?
Yes.
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
May 3rd, 2015 at 5:07:54 PM
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Quote: gordonm8882-2-2-3-3 in any order, followed by A-A-A-A followed by 4.
I see that you continued with the edit, instead of an acknowledgement.
Fair enough, but the number still sounds a bit high to me. "Sounds".
Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.
May 3rd, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM
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Eight deck shoe, dealer stands on soft 17.I was playing head to head , about 7 or 8 hands into the shoe.
May 3rd, 2015 at 7:53:12 PM
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Quote: gordonm888I think for one deck, stand on soft17, it is 160,751,859,009 to 1 That's 160 billion to one.
Have I missed something?
Yes, there were five twos.
May 3rd, 2015 at 7:59:50 PM
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About 1727566255-to-1.Quote: tokearooEight deck shoe, dealer stands on soft 17.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 8:30:13 PM
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S17, DOA, DAS,Quote: odiousgambitI would sure stay with that shoe and increase my bet too.
Eight decks, off the top H/A = -0.43248%.
Remove the cards 2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 from the shoe, then H/A = -0.28219%.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 8:38:23 PM
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Quote: teliotS17, DOA, DAS,
Eight decks, off the top H/A = -0.43248%.
Remove the cards 2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 from the shoe, then H/A = -0.28219%.
What if we remove ALL of the 2 through 9's?? :-)~
I'd love to play with 8 pinochle decks :-D
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May 3rd, 2015 at 8:40:56 PM
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Quote: Dalex64Yes, there were five twos.
I realized he had 5 deuces, but he asked what were the odds of making a 10-card 20? and I was just supplying an academic answer to supplement what everyone else was saying. I thought my calc was interesting, I hope you agree.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 8:45:04 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesWhat if we remove ALL of the 2 through 9's?? :-)~
I'd love to play with 8 pinochle decks :-D
Pinochle decks have 9s.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 9:13:42 PM
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well, your hard 18 was it just 10,8 or 8,10Quote: tokearooEight deck shoe, dealer stands on soft 17.I was playing head to head , about 7 or 8 hands into the shoe.
if yes
against a dealer 2 you only win abouts 50% of the time (i thinks that's close without looking)
of course
you played against what is known as the Dealer's Ace (the 2 - it is not the loneliest(?) number but close)
for the dealer's hand that is, losing to the 2 is nothing to write home about
you have a photo to share of this rare event?
how did the Dealer place all those cards on the table?
how many suits came over to view this?
thanks for sharing and hope you write about something rare of a win by you
in other words
a super bad beat for the casino
Sally
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May 3rd, 2015 at 9:22:27 PM
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1,727,566,255Quote: teliotAbout 1727566255-to-1.
looks
abouts
3 times more likely than that 154 roll craps hand (at one time a world's record) by Grandma Pat.
I heard that record by Pat D
just fell to a single Mom in a Nevada casino
something like 163 or 164 rolls
that Mom, whose name will not be released because she told HER MOM she would never again play Craps while the kids were still in school
and something about State money, ouch!
o oh
caught RED handed at Craps she was!
(on FIRE!)
yes girl!
Mully
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May 3rd, 2015 at 10:06:15 PM
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Quote: gordonm888Pinochle decks have 9s.
I know. That's why I separated the statement from my question.
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May 3rd, 2015 at 11:00:53 PM
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Quote: mustangsally(the 2 - it is not the loneliest(?) number but close)
Interesting. Two can be as bad as one. If it "can be", that must mean that on occasion, it is. If it is "as bad", then it is also "equal to".
2 = 1. You heard it here first.
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May 7th, 2015 at 4:27:40 PM
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Got beat one time with seven 2s and 7.Quote: tokearooI was recently victim of this dealer hand . I stayed with hard 18, dealer showing a 2. Dealer's hand ended up
2,2,2,2,3,A,A,A,2,4 for 20. Anyone know the odds of pulling a 10 card 20?
*note disclaimer* I hate Hypocrites, Liars, Druggies/Drunks and Thieves. I am also considered an ahole in general. I am ok with it, so don't bother pointing it out, I already know.
May 7th, 2015 at 4:33:50 PM
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The most I've personally seen was a 9 card 21. It was a mid sized minus count and I was sitting out. :-)
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May 7th, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM
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I cant remeber the exact hand but the dealer pulled AAAAA and some other low cards, this was a S17 table.
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May 12th, 2015 at 6:35:26 PM
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Quote: djatcI cant remeber the exact hand but the dealer pulled AAAAA and some other low cards, this was a S17 table.
This. 100000x this. Not too long ago, my dealer got AAAAA6 for 21. That is the worst.
