Wino
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February 2nd, 2015 at 7:16:22 AM permalink
In the past while delving into the rules of Blackjack for the first time, I vaguely recall a reading that said that it is not uncommon that a Blackjack player has some rebellious inclinations rooted within him and that is partly what would draw him to the game itself. To go against authority, or against the establishment. These themes would mirror coincidentally with the game itself ie. you are playing against the "house" or "institution" as a whole. I have tried to do a Google search on this topic without any results. I am wondering if anyone has found a link or a book that would touch on this esoteric aspect of Blackjack or have some thoughts or personal reflections and experiences to share. Also I find it interesting that for the Advantage Player, it is often a solitary pursuit and not that solitary pursuits are bad but that it draws to the game certain personality types. I do enjoy how intelligent and thoughtful the AP community is from this board as well as from reading AP literature.

Wino.
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FleaStiff
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February 2nd, 2015 at 7:29:20 AM permalink
Virtually all games are banked by the house so I see nothing about Blackjack as being exceptional in any respect.

Rebellious, anti-establishment types? Well, ain't we all?

Probably Reward Deficiency Syndrome.
AxelWolf
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February 3rd, 2015 at 6:19:47 AM permalink
Quote: Wino

. Also I find it interesting that for the Advantage Player, it is often a solitary pursuit and not that solitary pursuits are bad but that it draws to the game certain personality types.

Wino.

I think you would be surprised to find out many BJ AP's are actually NOT playing as a solitary pursuit. Sure they may be sitting at the table alone, but behind the scenes theres tons of non solitary interactions with partners and friends.

People think AP attracts a certain type of person, but I have found it's a very diverse group of people from around the world. Everyone from previously homeless, former school teachers, casino employees, housewives, doctors, professors. There's completely "normal" people, to completely insane people who AP. I have seen mathematicians with money fail and guys who rarely went to school who started with nothing succeed.

The only common link I have seen is the people who do it, find it fun and interesting to make money from games.

Yes there's more 30+ white males attempting card counting. You could say the same about other things.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Greasyjohn
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:33:57 AM permalink
One interesting thing about blackjack that distinguishes it from other casino games is that you are playing against the dealer.
BleedingChipsSlowly
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:15:48 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

One interesting thing about blackjack that distinguishes it from other casino games is that you are playing against the dealer.

Not so for three card poker?
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BleedingChipsSlowly
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:21:54 PM permalink
Henry Tamburin offers his insight on player types by game here: Matching Games to Personality Types. Sorry, no support for the OP theory.

[Edit: Corrected spelling of Tamburin's name, thanks for the hint 1BB]
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RS
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:33:47 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Quote: Greasyjohn

One interesting thing about blackjack that distinguishes it from other casino games is that you are playing against the dealer.

Not so for three card poker?



At least you don't play against the dealer in Ultimate Texas Hol.....wait a second!!
Dieter
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February 5th, 2015 at 6:47:49 PM permalink
Quote: Wino

I vaguely recall a reading that said that it is not uncommon that a Blackjack player has some rebellious inclinations rooted within him and that is partly what would draw him to the game itself.



That might hold true for a Blackjack Advantage Player, but it tends to hold true for AP's in general. Most players are not advantage players.

I can tell you that for my own case, I prefer blackjack over poker, since I want to take the house's money, and I'd rather not take money from some player.
May the cards fall in your favor.
doubleluck
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February 5th, 2015 at 7:28:01 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

That might hold true for a Blackjack Advantage Player, but it tends to hold true for AP's in general. Most players are not advantage players.

I can tell you that for my own case, I prefer blackjack over poker, since I want to take the house's money, and I'd rather not take money from some player.


The house takes the player's money and you take the house's money that they won from the player. As a result, the house is merely the middle man in about every game.
Dieter
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February 6th, 2015 at 3:13:39 AM permalink
Quote: doubleluck

The house takes the player's money and you take the house's money that they won from the player. As a result, the house is merely the middle man in about every game.



I still prefer taking money from the house over pushing money back and forth on a poker table.
May the cards fall in your favor.

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