Basic Strategy confusion
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https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/calculator/
This is a basic strategy calculator. You can select the rules of the game you play & it will give you the correct strategy.
Quote: adam671I've been playing standard blackjack, 6 deck CSM S17 double and splits allowed with no surrender. I'm having confusion as there is that many different and contradicting basic strategies out there. Can someone guide to me to the "actual" basic strategy?
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Welcome, adam671. Use the link to Wizard of Odds at the bottom of this page. Click Blackjack under Game Odds & Strategies, scroll down to Basic Strategy and click on 4 or more decks. There are charts for S17 and H17. Print out both for future reference.
There is no distinction for CSMs, ASMs or hand shuffled games, it's all the same strategy. Good luck with the CSMs.
Quote: adam671So you shouldn't split 88s against a picture or Ace, and you shouldn't double 11 against a picture card? I'm talking about UK blackjack
You didn't say that. Are you playing ENHC where all doubles and splits are lost versus a dealer blackjack rather than just the original bet?
The dealer does NOT have a peek card, this is what is confusing me?
Quote: adam671I'm playing standard european blackjack 3:2, Stands on S17, doubles allowed on any card, double after split allowed, re split aces (1 card only).
The dealer does NOT have a peek card, this is what is confusing me?
Again it depends on the loss of entire splits and doubles or just the original bet.
If all is lost make the following changes:
Hit 10 and 11 versus Ace and 10
Hit A,A versus ace
Hit 8,8 versus 10
Quote: 1BBAgain it depends on the loss of entire splits and doubles or just the original bet.
What do you mean by this?
Quote: adam671What do you mean by this?
You have 11, the dealer has an A up... You decide to double and get a 9 for 20. The dealer pulls his 2nd card and it's a 10, blackjack. Does the dealer take ALL your money, or just your original bet? This is important for european basic strategy.
You should really be able to calculate the HE and basic strategy with the calculator given above. It has rule inputs for everything including the question about taking all your money or original bet on dealer BJ.
Quote: adam671What do you mean by this?
Some game rules will have you losing all the money on the felt after splitting or doubling only to see the dealer to flip over a blackjack. If you have 3 eights out you lose all three. Other games follow US rules where only the original split or double is lost and the rest returned to the player. Two of those eights in the example would be returned.
Quote: 1BBSome game rules will have you losing all the money on the felt after splitting or doubling only to see the dealer to flip over a blackjack. If you have 3 eights out you lose all three. Other games follow US rules where only the original split or double is lost and the rest returned to the player. Two of those eights in the example would be returned.
You would lose all the money on the bet
Quote: adam671You would lose all the money on the bet
See my post on the previous page for the basic strategy changes.
Quote: 1BBAgain it depends on the loss of entire splits and doubles or just the original bet.
If all is lost make the following changes:
Hit 10 and 11 versus A and 10
Hit A,A versus ace and 10
Hit 8,8 versus 10
Actually I checked blackjackinfo and several other tables, for ENHC you still split aces vs. dealer 10 up, which still makes sense as the dealer has only roughly 1/13 probability of making blackjack but you have 4/13 chance of making 21
Quote: RedJackActually I checked blackjackinfo and several other tables, for ENHC you still split aces vs. dealer 10 up, which still makes sense as the dealer has only roughly 1/13 probability of making blackjack but you have 4/13 chance of making 21
Correct.
So the logic is, although your returns diminish on the AA vs 10 play b/c of the possibility of losing instantly to dealer BJ even if you make two 21's, your expectation is still high enough and the dealer's chances of getting blackjack(roughly 1/13) low enough to justify splitting aces vs 10.
Quote: RedJackI just clicked the link, and unless there's something REALLY wrong with my eyes, I'm pretty sure the letter is "P", not "H" for AA vs. 10 under both "except UK" and "UK" tables.
Your eyes are just fine. Mine were tired. You read the charts correctly and I thank you for the correction. I changed my original post so no one will make the same mistake. When I was last in the UK I must have played the hand incorrectly, if I was dealt it.
