Adelaide Casino (Sky City) Blackjack

As of 21/10/14

Rules:

Dealer stands on soft 17
Blackjack pays 3:2
Dealer does not peek for blackjack
4 decks are used. A continuous shuffling machine is used. (Used cards are placed back into the shuffling machine when the used cards pile reaches between a half a deck and a full deck.)

Double on hard 9, 10, and 11 only

You may split to form a maximum of three hands
You can double after split
Aces can only be split once (cannot re-split aces) you only get 1 additional card when you split aces
You can’t get a blackjack on split hands; they count as 21.

Optimal results: 0.56473% HE Realistic results: 0.60423% HE https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/
A good strategy card: here

Notes:
You are allowed to take in a strategy card
Minimum bet of $15.
They do give comp points for play on blackjack.

What about the VIP room? Do you need a special membership?

Are you simply giving a report of the game there, or asking something about the game? Seems like an oddly poor game to have on a CS...

@1BB They have two VIP areas; one for ‘medium’ rollers (Barossa Room) and another one for whales. (Grange Room)
Both have restrictions for entrance but as a part of promotions you might be able to access the Barossa Room.
Here is information about the Barossa Room: https://www.adelaidecasino.com.au/casino/gaming-machines/barossa-room/
Here is information about the Grange Room: https://www.adelaidecasino.com.au/casino/vip-gaming/grange-room/

As a part of a promotion I was able to access the Barossa Room. I asked to look at the Grange Room and the answer was no. But a dealer and a supervisor told me about it and it was what you would expect; higher table limits, etc.


@Romes It’s just a report. I’m sure it will benefit a few people. I will add to it at a later date as I plan annual visits to this casino. I will cover more of their games as I get to know the place.
“Seems like an oddly poor game to have on a CS...”
What do you mean by CS?

Quote: petro

@1BB They have two VIP areas; one for ‘medium’ rollers (Barossa Room) and another one for whales. (Grange Room)
Both have restrictions for entrance but as a part of promotions you might be able to access the Barossa Room.
Here is information about the Barossa Room: https://www.adelaidecasino.com.au/casino/gaming-machines/barossa-room/
Here is information about the Grange Room: https://www.adelaidecasino.com.au/casino/vip-gaming/grange-room/

As a part of a promotion I was able to access the Barossa Room. I asked to look at the Grange Room and the answer was no. But a dealer and a supervisor told me about it and it was what you would expect; higher table limits, etc.


@Romes It’s just a report. I’m sure it will benefit a few people. I will add to it at a later date as I plan annual visits to this casino. I will cover more of their games as I get to know the place.
“Seems like an oddly poor game to have on a CS...”
What do you mean by CS?

CSM is the continuous shuffle machine that you described. Are they ShuffleMaster one2six? How do you know how many decks they use?

Do the VIP rooms offer hand shuffled games?

Hi Petro

Please excuse a non-BJ question: do they have video poker on the gaming floor?

Cheers

U235

Unclear whether this is Barona room or Casino Floor:

Table Games

Baccarat
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Omaha and Texas Hold'em.
Rapid Roulette
just like a standard Roulette game, except the table has individual player terminals
Roulette

@1BB “Are they ShuffleMaster one2six? How do you know how many decks they use?”
I don’t know what brand of shuffling machine they used. I can find out next time I visit which will be in about 9 months. A pit boss told me that they use 4 decks.

“Do the VIP rooms offer hand shuffled games?”
I saw shuffling machines in the Barossa Room. It’s logical to think that it’s the same in the Grange Room.


@uranium235 No, they don’t have any Video Poker except for one Wild Card 2. Wild Card 2 appears in IGT’s Multistar games. I haven’t calculated the return of Wild Card 2 but I guess that it is around 90%. I will probably find out its return next time I go.

I done a survey and asked the casino to get in some VP. Unfortunately, VP is not as popular here in Australia compared to America. I think it’s unlikely that the Adelaide Casino will get any VP.


@FleaStiff Those games are on the casino floor.


DISCLAIMER: I don’t want to get in trouble with any of you guys if you go to this casino. I only go there because it’s really close to me (3 and a half hour drive.) But, my initial impressions are its pretty tight. For example; with the basic slot card offered at the Adelaide Casino you need to wager $6 to accrue 1 comp point which is worth only 1c. That is the worst reward scheme I have come across yet and I’ve researched 6 different slot clubs. The average slot card gives you a 0.5% return on your slot play, whereas at this casino it's only 0.167%.

Adelaide casino has gone to the dogs, you now have to pay for a cup of coffee while say betting $50 or $100 minimum per hand in the new Baccarat pit. Apparently the catering manager had his budget cut, so now you can wager thousands, but still have to pay $2.50 for a coffee, the water (from a tap), is still free.

In the Grange room, they will freely get any patron pissed, but you have to pay to eat (they will deduct points if you have them), you also have to sign agreement that you are prepared / willing to lose money while gambling. It must rank as one of the tight-fisted casino's down-under.

How old is the casino? I remember being in Adelaide with a friend who lived there back in early 1992 and asked if I wanted to go to "the casino", and apparently I was the first of her friends who ever said "no".

It opened in 1985, it must rank as the stingiest in Oz compared to interstate competition. Sure you can get free tea coffee in the Grange room which is too formal, you have to watch your P's and Q's, sitting amongst those that really don't care if they win or lose, also too many pit bosses watching you like a hawk.

Quote: Rashid

Adelaide casino has gone to the dogs, you now have to pay for a cup of coffee while say betting $50 or $100 minimum per hand in the new Baccarat pit. Apparently the catering manager had his budget cut, so now you can wager thousands, but still have to pay $2.50 for a coffee, the water (from a tap), is still free.

In the Grange room, they will freely get any patron pissed, but you have to pay to eat (they will deduct points if you have them), you also have to sign agreement that you are prepared / willing to lose money while gambling. It must rank as one of the tight-fisted casino's down-under.

LOL. Egalite, now why would a big baccarat winning player like yourself be complaining about a measly $2.50?????? Your recent posts is such a piker response. For someone who is traveling the world to play baccarat you sure do pick the crappiest places to play.

Quote: Rashid

It opened in 1985, it must rank as the stingiest in Oz compared to interstate competition. Sure you can get free tea coffee in the Grange room which is too formal, you have to watch your P's and Q's, sitting amongst those that really don't care if they win or lose, also too many pit bosses watching you like a hawk.

Their policy in regards to drinks may have changed since. The player card I have entitles me to free drinks 24-7.
That includes a wide variety of drinks. It excludes alcohol.
You don't have to be a whale to get the card either and it's one of those cards which doesn't expire. :)

"...in the Grange room which is too formal"
I wouldn't know but the staff told me that some of the people in the VIP area look like they live on the streets. I don't think they have any dress codes.

" ...also too many pit bosses watching you like a hawk"
Yeah, I know. The security at the Adelaide casino are just straight-up thugs. And they've got these thugs everywhere. You can't even blow your nose without raising suspicion.