richbailey86
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September 22nd, 2014 at 5:15:36 PM permalink
the wizard offers a simple basic strategy which is much easier and simpler.

what do you all think about it?

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/wizard_strategy.gif
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September 22nd, 2014 at 5:32:19 PM permalink
It's not that difficult to learn full basic strategy and that is my suggestion.
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September 22nd, 2014 at 6:28:10 PM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

the wizard offers a simple basic strategy which is much easier and simpler.

what do you all think about it?

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/wizard_strategy.gif


If you're actually going to learn anything it might as well be basic strategy. You don't even have to learn it. Print off a small version from the wizards page here. Or you could even purchase basic strategy cards (I didn't see any on either of the Wizards sites) here.

...You can literally take these cards in to casino's and reference them. After a while you'll probably memorize it just from playing, but you don't even have to do that up front (although you should because it keeps the game from slowing down every time you have to reference the card).
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September 23rd, 2014 at 3:44:56 AM permalink
Quote: richbailey86

the wizard offers a simple basic strategy which is much easier and simpler.

what do you all think about it?

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/wizard_strategy.gif



I think everyone who plays blackjack should learn basic strategy. I honestly do not think Wizard's strategy is easier to learn, not because he makes it hard, but because only a mental midget can't memorize a simple chart, 80% of which is common sense. Also, I would never recommend playing certain hands wrong as an excuse to be mentally lazy. Just bring a chart for a different game with different rules like some ploppies do.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 4:12:45 AM permalink
Let's put it another way. If the house edge is .4%, you must play perfect basic strategy to realize that house edge. Any shortcuts such as a simpler strategy will increase the house edge against you. I know you don't want to be playing with less of an advantage than the guy next to you. We're always running around seeking the best rules to get games that are a tiny bit better because it does make a difference. There's something you can do before you even leave the house. Learn basic strategy. No shortcuts.
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richbailey86
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September 23rd, 2014 at 4:22:03 AM permalink
I understand. I just wanted to see what that mini chart was about.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 4:29:45 AM permalink
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I understand. I just wanted to see what that mini chart was about.



Plus you won't get yelled at. Regardless of the chart you use, you probably won't get yelled at as much as I do. :-)
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September 23rd, 2014 at 4:37:43 AM permalink
Quote: wizard page

The cost due to incorrect plays with the Simple Strategy is 0.53%, under liberal Vegas Strip rules.



that is steeper than I had remembered. In any case, IMO it isn't a bad idea to start with it, then move up to proper BS. I learned the simple first, but immediately started modifying it to something better playing his blackjack trainer. By the time I tried BJ at a casino, I could do BS but needed a little card for splits and softs. Now I have it down except sometimes pausing to think.

I don't think starting with the Simple was a problem at all; maybe it gave me confidence to move on.
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richbailey86
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September 23rd, 2014 at 4:44:06 AM permalink
You count then. Id like to sit next to a counter and mimmick the plays
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September 23rd, 2014 at 5:11:31 AM permalink
If you're playing a 6deck or 8deck S17 game for amusement, it should be fine.

If you're playing H17 anything and trying to make money, you'll appreciate the extras in the full basic strategy.

Every condition change requires a change in strategy for optimal play. That's 1d/2d/(4/6/8)d, H17/S17, DA/D9/D10/D11, DAS/nDAS, ES/LS/nS.
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