AxiomOfChoice
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May 4th, 2014 at 6:44:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The Hacienda, formerly home of the most liberal blackjack game in the greater Vegas area, with a house edge of 0.127%, has removed all table games.

The best game now follows these rules:

2 decks
Stand of soft 17
Double after split allowed
Re-splitting aces allowed
Surrender not allowed

Lots of MGM properties have such rules at mid to high-limit. So does the M.

If anybody is looking to take the "best blackjack" game award, now would be a good time to do so.



The MGM games do not allow re-splitting of aces. I am not sure about the M.

And, wouldn't the El Cortez single-deck be better than this?
Ibeatyouraces
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May 4th, 2014 at 6:54:20 PM permalink
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:19:37 PM permalink
Quote: Pokeraddict

Riviera tried this angle. It had 3-2 single deck D1011 (which actually isn't as great as it sounds), single zero roulette and 1000x times craps. It all went away after about 6 months because they weren't attracting play with it.



Their single-deck game was not that good. The standard Strip six-deck S17 rules are better. They still had the lousy odds on the prop bets in craps. Roulette was not European (lose half on even money bets on a zero). They asked me to endorse them as the best odds in Vegas and I refused.
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

The MGM games do not allow re-splitting of aces. I am not sure about the M.



I think you're right and just updated my survey. However, I think the M still allows re-splitting of aces in the game in question. For that reason, I now proclaim the M to have the single best blackjack game in Vegas. The house edge is 0.20% with basic strategy and a cut card. 0.12% the first hand after a shuffle with perfect composition-dependent strategy.

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And, wouldn't the El Cortez single-deck be better than this?



The basic strategy house is 0.30% in the El Cortez single-deck game. Players generally put too much emphasis on the number of decks.
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Ibeatyouraces
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:47:58 PM permalink
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rdw4potus
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:54:32 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I still prefer the Kewadin Casino 6 deck game here. 3:2, S17, DOA, DAS, LS, double on split aces, $3 minimums.



I believe that's the best game I've ever personally played. I just wish it wasn't at a casino (casinos) 5 hours from nowhere.
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May 4th, 2014 at 7:55:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Quote: Wizard

The Hacienda, formerly home of the most liberal blackjack game in the greater Vegas area, with a house edge of 0.127%, has removed all table games.

The best game now follows these rules:

2 decks
Stand of soft 17
Double after split allowed
Re-splitting aces allowed
Surrender not allowed

Lots of MGM properties have such rules at mid to high-limit. So does the M.

If anybody is looking to take the "best blackjack" game award, now would be a good time to do so.



The MGM games do not allow re-splitting of aces. I am not sure about the M.

And, wouldn't the El Cortez single-deck be better than this?



Heard of them, never been there. Good for them. Do whatever their business model calls for. If people are gonna enjoy their "type of business" god bless them.
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May 4th, 2014 at 8:00:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I think you're right and just updated my survey. However, I think the M still allows re-splitting of aces in the game in question. For that reason, I now proclaim the M to have the single best blackjack game in Vegas. The house edge is 0.20% with basic strategy and a cut card. 0.12% the first hand after a shuffle with perfect composition-dependent strategy.



The basic strategy house is 0.30% in the El Cortez single-deck game. Players generally put too much emphasis on the number of decks.

Cbjn says the El Cortex game is 0.18 .Why is your number different than Wong's?
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May 4th, 2014 at 9:00:38 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Cbjn says the El Cortex game is 0.18 .Why is your number different than Wong's?



Correct me if I'm wrong (as always) but Wong's figures are based on a shuffle after every hand. My 0.30% assumes a cut card. Per my blackjack appendix 10, the cut card effect costs the player 0.11% in a single-deck game. 0.30% - 0.11% = 0.19%. Wong is at 0.18%. Since both figures are simulation based, that may explain the difference of 0.01%.
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May 4th, 2014 at 9:10:52 PM permalink
What about the Longhorn/Bighorn games. I don't know how to figure it, but I am under the impression that the doubling on 3 cards along with the 5-2 suited blackjack payout, brings the house edge down to almost zero. Is this not considered because the suited blackjack payout is considered a promotion and not part of the ordinary rules? Every time I have played there it has been in effect. Of course it is only good for a $5 bettor, which I am not. lol

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