Lucky Ladies Count : the definitive guide.
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April 30th, 2014 at 6:18:39 PM
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Lucky Ladies — Pay Table B
HAND TABLE B
Q of hearts pair & dealer has BJ 1000 to 1
Q of hearts pair 200 to 1
Matched 20 (same rank and suit) 25 to 1
Suited 20 10 to 1
Unsuited 20 4 to 1
On a 6 deck game, WoO has this bet at 17%.
Using hi-lo, what TC is required to make this bet profitable. If insurance is +3, wouldn't this be the same or less?
Is there a count for lucky ladies specifically?
Hi-lo seems like it would be ok, but it seems there could be a more accurate count for this specific bet.
Does anyone have the numbers?
If there is a count for lucky ladies, is it more profitable than hi-lo in total? IE: varying only your lucky ladies bet.
Less heat, more?
This is meant to be the definitive guide to counting lucky ladies, so all information is appreciated, thanks.
HAND TABLE B
Q of hearts pair & dealer has BJ 1000 to 1
Q of hearts pair 200 to 1
Matched 20 (same rank and suit) 25 to 1
Suited 20 10 to 1
Unsuited 20 4 to 1
On a 6 deck game, WoO has this bet at 17%.
Using hi-lo, what TC is required to make this bet profitable. If insurance is +3, wouldn't this be the same or less?
Is there a count for lucky ladies specifically?
Hi-lo seems like it would be ok, but it seems there could be a more accurate count for this specific bet.
Does anyone have the numbers?
If there is a count for lucky ladies, is it more profitable than hi-lo in total? IE: varying only your lucky ladies bet.
Less heat, more?
This is meant to be the definitive guide to counting lucky ladies, so all information is appreciated, thanks.
April 30th, 2014 at 6:22:50 PM
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I believe TC is around 5 or 6 IIRC.
You can use the Archer count for LL (and also use Archer for insurance too!).
You can use the Archer count for LL (and also use Archer for insurance too!).
April 30th, 2014 at 6:27:30 PM
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It's not even close to the index for insurance. Why would you think it was?
April 30th, 2014 at 6:30:58 PM
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Quote: geoffIt's not even close to the index for insurance. Why would you think it was?
Because with insurance, one 10 pays 2-1. Here, two 10s pay 4-1. So it's the same....
(kidding....)
April 30th, 2014 at 6:54:35 PM
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While i do appreciate the comments...So far not too definitive guys...
For the sake of argument, pretend you are explaining it to a well endowed ape like man.
Axiom, you always seem to have the numbers, it's crunch time.
Is there a more accurate count for lucky ladies that can yield more profit than 'regular' counting?
If not, TC of hi-lo for LL.
Maybe if I pose it I the form of a math question.
TC?=$$$LL
Lol.
For the sake of argument, pretend you are explaining it to a well endowed ape like man.
Axiom, you always seem to have the numbers, it's crunch time.
Is there a more accurate count for lucky ladies that can yield more profit than 'regular' counting?
If not, TC of hi-lo for LL.
Maybe if I pose it I the form of a math question.
TC?=$$$LL
Lol.
April 30th, 2014 at 6:55:07 PM
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http://apheat.net/2012/08/08/card-counting-the-lucky-ladies-blackjack-side-bet/
Or just use Google.
Or just use Google.
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April 30th, 2014 at 6:57:57 PM
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The reason I (and possibly other) haven't answered you is because the phrase 'lucky ladies sidecount' in google answers all of your questions. The first link is to Norm's book where he covers the LL sidebet and how it works with high low. How profitable it is and whether or not you should play it. The second link is to Elliot's site where he goes over similar information, but provides an actual sidecount developed specifically for LL.
If you just want a short answer then the answer is 7.
If you just want a short answer then the answer is 7.
April 30th, 2014 at 6:59:11 PM
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Quote: Vlad3TetesWhile i do appreciate the comments...So far not too definitive guys...
For the sake of argument, pretend you are explaining it to a well endowed ape like man.
Axiom, you always seem to have the numbers, it's crunch time.
Is there a more accurate count for lucky ladies that can yield more profit than 'regular' counting?
If not, TC of hi-lo for LL.
Maybe if I lose it I the form I a math question.
TC?=$$$LL
Lol.
What teliot said.
All that matters here is the max bet. If the max is $25 per hand you can probably find something better. If you can bet $500 per hand you will probably do pretty well until they kick you out. My guess is it's the former.
An edge is worthless if you can't get the money down.
April 30th, 2014 at 7:12:05 PM
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Thanks teliot, axiom and geoff.
While I appreciate the suggestion, I can search google for "how to beat baccarat" and find that a simple martingale can take down the house.
I will take WoO and guys from here over google any day.
I will check the recommended readings, thanks for the link.
I have read that article teliot, it suggests more money can be made counting lucky ladies than a 'regular' count.
Is this backed mathematically? It seems like that might be true if you are working with a lower bankroll.
While I appreciate the suggestion, I can search google for "how to beat baccarat" and find that a simple martingale can take down the house.
I will take WoO and guys from here over google any day.
I will check the recommended readings, thanks for the link.
I have read that article teliot, it suggests more money can be made counting lucky ladies than a 'regular' count.
Is this backed mathematically? It seems like that might be true if you are working with a lower bankroll.
April 30th, 2014 at 7:13:07 PM
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I just make stuff up (that's my blog) to scare casinos so they'll hire me to give them advice they don't need.Quote: Vlad3TetesIs this backed mathematically?
Try plugging "card counting Lucky Ladies" into the Google.
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:19:02 PM
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Quote: Vlad3Tetes
I have read that article teliot, it suggests more money can be made counting lucky ladies than a 'regular' count.
Is this backed mathematically? It seems like that might be true if you are working with a lower bankroll.
Did you really just ask a guy with a PhD in mathematics if an article that he wrote is backed by math? I'm going to go ahead and say yes...
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:22:29 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusDid you really just ask a guy with a PhD in mathematics if an article that he wrote is backed by math? I'm going to go ahead and say yes...
Sorry I didn't assume he wrote the article,
and then read his auto biography,
and then post.
Thanks for nothing champ.
April 30th, 2014 at 7:25:51 PM
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Wow, good luck with all that, last help you get from me.Quote: Vlad3TetesThanks for nothing champ.
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:26:45 PM
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Quote: teliotI just make stuff up (that's my blog) to scare casinos so they'll hire me to give them advice they don't need.
Try plugging "card counting Lucky Ladies" into the Google.
I mean no disrespect, thanks for responding.
Would you suggest your count as opposed to hi-lo for total profit all things considered?
April 30th, 2014 at 7:28:04 PM
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I don't suggest counts to APs. I work for the casino industry. Look a bit more carefully at my blog.Quote: Vlad3TetesI mean no disrespect, thanks for responding.
Would you suggest your count as opposed to hi-lo for total profit all things considered?
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:28:12 PM
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Quote: teliotWow, good luck with all that, last help you get from me.
That wasn't directed at you teliot, that was for rwdpus.
April 30th, 2014 at 7:29:49 PM
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You are new here, be nice or you may find that all doors close quickly.Quote: Vlad3TetesThat wasn't directed at you teliot, that was for rwdpus.
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:42:23 PM
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Quote: teliotYou are new here, be nice or you may find that all doors close quickly.
Thanks for saying it for me.
Take that advice to heart, Vlad, respect for others is the default around here, but you can lose that respect very quickly.
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:43:32 PM
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Edit --
April 30th, 2014 at 7:44:53 PM
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Oh, good, you Edited that on your own. Good choice, I caught it, but we'll keep that one between us this one time.
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April 30th, 2014 at 7:48:26 PM
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I caught it before the edit. I was thinking Aspergers maybe?
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
April 30th, 2014 at 7:56:52 PM
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April 30th, 2014 at 8:04:16 PM
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Back to the original topic...
I suspect that this is not a very good opportunity. But, to be sure, can you tell us...
1. The max bet on LL.
2. The min bet on Blackjack.
3. The blackjack rules
If you don't want to post this publicly, feel free to PM me. But hopefully you see where I am going with this...
I suspect that this is not a very good opportunity. But, to be sure, can you tell us...
1. The max bet on LL.
2. The min bet on Blackjack.
3. The blackjack rules
If you don't want to post this publicly, feel free to PM me. But hopefully you see where I am going with this...
April 30th, 2014 at 8:08:34 PM
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Quote: HunterhillI caught it before the edit. I was thinking Aspergers maybe?
Edit -- you --edit-Edit-Editing-Edit--
April 30th, 2014 at 8:27:03 PM
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Quote: Vlad3TetesEdit -- you --edit-Edit-Editing-Edit--
Trolling, Seven Days.
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