Side Ace Count
April 16th, 2014 at 3:12:32 AM
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Hi there,
I just wanted to know what do most people do when they keep a separate track of counting aces? If for example the TC was only +1 or +2 or even +0 but it's been mainly 10s and low cards, would you still ramp up your bet as if it was a TC of +5? Also is it more advantageous to play 4-5 boxes at once when it is like this or best to keep to 1-3? This is also assuming you aren't worried about being called out as a counter by the casino and had no restrictions on how to play.
Sorry for the newb question as I'm still just a part-time counter and wanted to know how to improve my play in this situation. Thanks!
I just wanted to know what do most people do when they keep a separate track of counting aces? If for example the TC was only +1 or +2 or even +0 but it's been mainly 10s and low cards, would you still ramp up your bet as if it was a TC of +5? Also is it more advantageous to play 4-5 boxes at once when it is like this or best to keep to 1-3? This is also assuming you aren't worried about being called out as a counter by the casino and had no restrictions on how to play.
Sorry for the newb question as I'm still just a part-time counter and wanted to know how to improve my play in this situation. Thanks!
April 16th, 2014 at 5:24:30 AM
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It depends on what count you are using. Hi-lo doesn't have a way of making decisions with an ace count, but if you were using Hi-Opt then you would have a way of factoring the A's into your playing decisions.
Playing 4-5 boxes is technically more advantageous, but it's also suspicious as hell and most places will require you to play 5x minimum to play 5 spots. Unless you are confident you will get no heat from it stick to 1/2 hands.
Playing 4-5 boxes is technically more advantageous, but it's also suspicious as hell and most places will require you to play 5x minimum to play 5 spots. Unless you are confident you will get no heat from it stick to 1/2 hands.
April 16th, 2014 at 5:41:51 AM
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Yeah just lazily counting with the Hi-Lo at the moment. I'll probably shift into Hi-Opt though for the extra slight advantage in the long run.
Is it really that advantageous playing 4-5 boxes when the count is positive? It always seems I pull 10s initially and dealer gets 10 as well then it's followed by small cards and I end up slowly bringing the count back to neutral sort of trying to make hands and busting. It seems to be happening often and I was thinking whether it would just have been better to have ramped up bets at 2-3 boxes only.
Is it really that advantageous playing 4-5 boxes when the count is positive? It always seems I pull 10s initially and dealer gets 10 as well then it's followed by small cards and I end up slowly bringing the count back to neutral sort of trying to make hands and busting. It seems to be happening often and I was thinking whether it would just have been better to have ramped up bets at 2-3 boxes only.
April 16th, 2014 at 7:14:34 AM
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Quote: lamby130Hi there,
I just wanted to know what do most people do when they keep a separate track of counting aces? If for example the TC was only +1 or +2 or even +0 but it's been mainly 10s and low cards, would you still ramp up your bet as if it was a TC of +5? Also is it more advantageous to play 4-5 boxes at once when it is like this or best to keep to 1-3? This is also assuming you aren't worried about being called out as a counter by the casino and had no restrictions on how to play.
Sorry for the newb question as I'm still just a part-time counter and wanted to know how to improve my play in this situation. Thanks!
No, you would not ramp up your bet like that in a standard 6D game (although in single deck, I am sure an expert could attest otherwise under certain circumstances). Aces and 10s have similar betting EOR's. Generally, someone uses an ace-neutral count to enhance playing decisions since counting the ace as negative weakens that aspect of the count's accuracy. Side counting the ace is used to make bets like normal, so that betting accuracy is not hindered by neglecting the ace.
