Dealer Exposes Both Cards
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October 4th, 2013 at 11:34:24 AM
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referring to this page....
3 questions....
1) is there another chart for when the dealer hits soft 17?
2) when the player has a total of 4 it says double against 15 and 16. what other way is there to get 4 (not A3) other than 2,2? and why would a player total of 4 be different than a player total of 5? arent you doubling either way knowing you cant possibly make a hand?
3) why are there no surrenders?
3 questions....
1) is there another chart for when the dealer hits soft 17?
2) when the player has a total of 4 it says double against 15 and 16. what other way is there to get 4 (not A3) other than 2,2? and why would a player total of 4 be different than a player total of 5? arent you doubling either way knowing you cant possibly make a hand?
3) why are there no surrenders?
October 4th, 2013 at 1:25:42 PM
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if you cant split 2,2 then you technically have 4.
October 4th, 2013 at 1:47:58 PM
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Quote: MangoJif you cant split 2,2 then you technically have 4.
But I can't think of a game that doesn't allow you to split. And Wiz says to split 2,2 vs 15 and 16, but only double a pair of 5s vs. certain totals. So in most games, you would split 2,2 vs. 15/16.
I'm guessing there is no surrender because he forgot to consider that option...no other idea.
October 4th, 2013 at 5:43:33 PM
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ya i guess that makes sense. he just kept it simple rather than adding in Pd/Ph/Ps for split if allowed otherwise double/hit/stand although i think those mean split if double after split is allowed... so maybe it was just to not confuse the 2.
October 4th, 2013 at 5:45:21 PM
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ya i wouldnt play a game that didnt allow split (unless there was some other dramatic EV booster). is there any way to ask for a new chart with the surrenders?
October 4th, 2013 at 5:55:41 PM
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Quote: 65Rosesya i wouldnt play a game that didnt allow split (unless there was some other dramatic EV booster). is there any way to ask for a new chart with the surrenders?
Many games have a limit to the number of splits.
October 4th, 2013 at 6:14:25 PM
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That's a very specific game you almost never see, where you can see both of dealer's cards. However, the table does show different action for 2,2 (split), and a different overall strategy for A3 (though it shows double on both 15-16, it shows double on 13-14 as well specific to A3 rather than a total of 4 points, so I don't really know why all 3 are on there. The table does NOT say that it's only valid for the first 2 cards, so maybe that first line is correct for A2A or something. Although I don't know of any casinos any more that allow you to double on more than 2 cards, so maybe not.
I'm guessing since you almost never get to play the game, it's never mattered much to anybody before.
I'm guessing since you almost never get to play the game, it's never mattered much to anybody before.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 4th, 2013 at 6:29:43 PM
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Quote: 65Rosesis there any way to ask for a new chart with the surrenders?
You could ask the Wizard, I have no idea how long it took him to do the original.
Quote: cclub79Many games have a limit to the number of splits.
Thank you for that reminder; I have not played BJ enough to reach a split limit. So there is a good reason to have the strategy for hard 4.
October 4th, 2013 at 7:17:09 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 4th, 2013 at 7:20:51 PM
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Yeah, me the rube, I never think of the AP angle. Good point.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 6th, 2013 at 2:38:07 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 6th, 2013 at 6:53:47 PM
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A2A would just be A2 or AA, in which you play the strategy for those. im guessing its just for when you arent allowed to split
October 6th, 2013 at 6:54:39 PM
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i went to send him a message and it said to post on here. so thats what ive done. i just added him on fb so maybe i'll try sending him a message on there
