Early surrender

the wizzaerofodds site says that edge% benefit of these 2 rules are:
early surrender against dealers face card is 0.24%
and
early surrender against dealers ace is 0.39%
i want to determinate if the real benefit of early surrender against ace is 0.39% or if it is 0.15%(0.39%-0.24%)?

All data from http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bjstrategy.php :

No surrender: 0.46%
Late surrender: 0.38%
Early surrender vs 10: 0.22%
Full early surrender: -0.17%


Looking at the numbers, the 0.24% of "early surrender against face card" is with respect to "no surrender".
The 0.39% of "early surrender against ace" is with respect to "early surrender against face card".

The real benefit of that rule is thus 0.39%.

Edit: fixed link

alvbettor:

I concur w/ Mango that the + 0.39% on the Wizard's list represents Early Surrender vs Aces (alone), as opposed to no Surrender allowed vs. Aces.

That's a big number, but the player Surrenders a lot under that rule: http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bjbse.php?numdecks=6+decks&soft17=s17&dbl=all&das=yes&surr=es&peek=yes

So then, the combined player advantage of ES vs A's and ES vs 10's would be + 0.63% (0.24% + 0.39%), maybe even a hair higher if Surrender's also allowed for 16 vs 9.

Questions

1. Does anyone know of any casinos that offer Early Surrender vs A?

2. I was surprised Late Surrender's only + .08%. I would've guessed higher. Is this breakdown of Late Surrender correct: vs 10 + .07, with LS vs 9 and LS vs. A both so small that they total only + .01% together?

Thanks for your help.

Quote: hmmm23

Mango: Could you post an alternative link? I got 404'd with the one you left.

The ":" at the end of line was accidentaly included in the URL. Should work now.

I know a few casinos that still offer early surrender vs Ace but they are not in North America.

Quote: MangoJ

The ":" at the end of line was accidentaly included in the URL. Should work now.

Thanks for the link, Mango.

I'm surprised late surrender's only worth + 0.08% vs HE. I'm even more surprised that surrender vs A accounts for less than 0.01% of that 0.08%.

Well, live and learn, as they say.

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