Hi-Lo Count shuffle problem ?
April 5th, 2013 at 7:11:13 AM
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Say I play on a eTable 6 deck blackjack game which is shuffled after 50% of the cards in the shoe are dealt out. OK, so it is countable.
What I don`t know is how I determine WHEN the cards are shuffled if I am not able to see any graphic or sound representation of it ?
What I don`t know is how I determine WHEN the cards are shuffled if I am not able to see any graphic or sound representation of it ?
April 5th, 2013 at 7:34:00 AM
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It's difficult to beat a 6 deck game with 70% pen so I say not countable. I've never played one but I have watched them a few times and have a couple of questions. How can you count if you can't see the other players' screens and wouldn't the computer identify a counter? Almost every one of these tables that I observed had poorer rules than regular blackjack tables.
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April 5th, 2013 at 7:36:56 AM
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These tables seem to be popular in party pits hence the poor rules.
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April 5th, 2013 at 7:42:19 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
April 5th, 2013 at 7:50:57 AM
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Well, maybe it is not beatable at a 50% penetration, or better said, it might not be worthy. I am able to see all dealt cards.
But I really want to find out how I am able to determine when exactly a shuffle is made as I dont have any signs about it ?
The computer have very low min bet limits and allow counters! The rules are not that bad. That`s why I want to try it out.
But I really want to find out how I am able to determine when exactly a shuffle is made as I dont have any signs about it ?
The computer have very low min bet limits and allow counters! The rules are not that bad. That`s why I want to try it out.
April 5th, 2013 at 7:54:34 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesAnd if you don't know when the cards are shuffled, fuh-get-a-bout-it.
Yeah, that`s the only and biggest problem ! - Is not there a workaround for this thing ?
I asked them, and they told me that the software have a built in algorithm which shuffle the cards after 3 decks was dealt.
They also said me that if I want to see exactly when the cards are shuffled, then I can go to a blackjack with real dealers:)
April 5th, 2013 at 8:23:57 AM
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These games are counter proof. The fact you don't get to see a shuffle is a deliberate mechanism to insure it can't be counted.
April 5th, 2013 at 9:39:44 AM
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Quote: PlayHunterYeah, that`s the only and biggest problem ! - Is not there a workaround for this thing ?
Sure, if you don't know when the shuffle happened the best you could do is assume the mean distance from the shuffle - an effective 25% penetration. Way to shallow.
April 5th, 2013 at 10:01:58 AM
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So, should I assume the shuffle takes place at 25% penetration after I enter the table each time ? mmm the rules are OK, 0.14% HE
April 5th, 2013 at 11:16:30 AM
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Quote: PlayHunterSo, should I assume the shuffle takes place at 25% penetration after I enter the table each time ? mmm the rules are OK, 0.14% HE
Did you misplace the decimal point? The best 6 deck games usually have a house edge of 0.28%.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
April 5th, 2013 at 11:56:40 AM
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No, the number is correct. I believe it is mainly because player blackjack wins against dealer blackjack which is not that common.
