SantaQ
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January 16th, 2013 at 12:43:08 AM permalink
I'm staying at Aria... not sure I want to gamble there... I prefer smaller places but enjoy Rio/Paris/Bellagio (video poker at their bar is pretty sweet).

Anyway, for a year or so I've been practicing counting. 10-20 minutes a day in simulations and I'm 95% accurate with inaccuracies being +/- 1. I'm using HiLo at the local card house just to practice - I go with $200 bucks and generally I'm up 50 or down 50 when I leave. Not there to win, just practice.

For this trip, the bankroll will be $3K This should get me into $25 tables and be able to play for a while, hopefully get a few things comped - I'm not there to win at a game that's stacked against me.

All that said, I'm looking for suggestions of where to play. I see myself as going maybe 8x table minimum (that's what I do here).

Should I go for standard 6 decks where I can count all cards or would the DD be better (I do hate not seeing what people have)? Are there any 4-deck slots?

Better to go to a $10 and bet $25 or just show up at the $25 and play there?

Again, I'm there to play, socialize, and if I lose $3-5K, nbd but it'd sure be nice to play for a while before ruin comes a knock'n.

-N
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January 16th, 2013 at 4:23:44 AM permalink
How many days is this trip? How many hours do you plan on playing blackjack? Is your trip bankroll replenishable?

You'll need a 1-16 spread for the six deck games. With aggressive wonging, good rules and penetration maybe a 1-12 spread would suffice. That's only 10 max bets. A 1-8 spread is ideal for the double deck game. That's only 15 max bets. That spread could generate heat and finding good penetration could be difficult.

With your bankroll, play the lowest minimum S17 tables available. Depending on the day and time some $10 minimums may be found but plan on $15. You can bet $25 off the top if you must. The floor may fall for it and give you a higher comp rating.

Keep practicing your counting, learn the Illustrious 18 and consider wonging. Don't play for comps just let them come. What I mean by that is don't make reckless bets in the hopes of increasing them.

Contrary to what you may believe the game is not stacked against you so don't go in thinking that you are going to lose. Give it your best!
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GH
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January 16th, 2013 at 6:19:16 AM permalink
And where, pray tell, can I find these mythical $10 & $15 S17 tables?
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January 16th, 2013 at 7:35:58 AM permalink
I don't know the whereabouts of any mythical tables.
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MakingBook
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January 16th, 2013 at 7:57:20 AM permalink
Quote: GH

And where, pray tell, can I find these mythical $10 & $15 S17 tables?



MGM had one $10 S17 table- 6d, S17, DOA, DAS, RSA, LS, pen 4.5/6.
I checked last 3 Vegas trips Oct, Nov, Dec, and it wasn't $10 anymore.

You can find these same rules for $25min at MGM and the Mirage, not sure where else?
I usually spread $10-$200, so I'm stuck with H17 games for now.
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AcesAndEights
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January 16th, 2013 at 9:21:17 AM permalink
Concur with 1BB that your bankroll is probably too small, but you haven't said how long the trip is, which is an important piece of missing information.
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January 16th, 2013 at 10:41:12 AM permalink
Santa Pretty good link about $25 BJ and bankroll, risk of ruin, and comps.

http://wpselect.com/blackjack/25-a-hand-blackjack-bankroll/
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January 16th, 2013 at 11:04:30 AM permalink
SantaQ will not be flat betting.
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Buzzard
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January 16th, 2013 at 11:08:11 AM permalink
I know that. Not as dumb as I look. Well, not most of the time anyway !
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tringlomane
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January 16th, 2013 at 11:22:51 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

SantaQ will not be flat betting.



True, but at MGM properties at least, does he need to bet $25 min to get rated? I read that a lot here, but I really don't know.

Getting comps from his play would obviously be a nice bonus. But that also means he should be acting less like a card counter I would assume.

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