Witnessed horrific strategy
October 6th, 2012 at 8:54:01 AM
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OK - so last night my friends wanted to wander over to Caesars AC again and I watched them play a $10 table. Ploppy (28 year old guy it seemed to me) and Mizz Ploppy (his g/f sat down to join the fray)...here is what I witnessed:
My friend was dealt an A, 2 against a dealer K
My friend hit
Ploppy decides to add his $.02 and announce to the table "Bad move, if you have a soft hand the only correct move is to stay or double"
(he would repeatedly say this anytime a soft hand was dealt to anyone, whether or not the dealer had an A or face showing)
Mizz Ploppy would ask for help on every hand - and every hand she had of 14, 15, 16 against a dealer 7, 8, 9, 10 or Ace Mr. Ploppy would tell her to stand.
Finally, the cardinal rule of Ploppyism is to yell at another player when they "take the dealer's bust card" - a nice Indian fellow was playing and he had a 10,2 versus a dealer 3
Indian guy hit and busted and immediately Ploppy laid into him about taking the dealer's bust card (meanwhile, ploppy stayed on his 10 against the dealer 12) - the dealer busted anyway
Oh boy!!!
My friend was dealt an A, 2 against a dealer K
My friend hit
Ploppy decides to add his $.02 and announce to the table "Bad move, if you have a soft hand the only correct move is to stay or double"
(he would repeatedly say this anytime a soft hand was dealt to anyone, whether or not the dealer had an A or face showing)
Mizz Ploppy would ask for help on every hand - and every hand she had of 14, 15, 16 against a dealer 7, 8, 9, 10 or Ace Mr. Ploppy would tell her to stand.
Finally, the cardinal rule of Ploppyism is to yell at another player when they "take the dealer's bust card" - a nice Indian fellow was playing and he had a 10,2 versus a dealer 3
Indian guy hit and busted and immediately Ploppy laid into him about taking the dealer's bust card (meanwhile, ploppy stayed on his 10 against the dealer 12) - the dealer busted anyway
Oh boy!!!
October 6th, 2012 at 9:20:16 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 6th, 2012 at 9:28:50 AM
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I see this every time I deal BJ. Last night a couple comes to my table, I had two nice guys playing and the only real deviation from BS I saw was that 1 of them refused to hit on 16 vs. dealer 10. So the male half of the new couple tells us all about how they had to leave the last table because the other players were so bad. Just like your experience the female half asked what to do on every single hand and none of them were bs stumpers, all really straight forward plays, but... at least half the time he told her to hit when she should have stayed, and stay when she should have hit.
It's this sort of experience over and over and over that make me wonder why so many people think the house is so evil, immoral, etc. There's simply no need, the ploppies keep the bills paid all by themselves.
It's this sort of experience over and over and over that make me wonder why so many people think the house is so evil, immoral, etc. There's simply no need, the ploppies keep the bills paid all by themselves.
October 6th, 2012 at 9:34:35 AM
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Quote: aceofspades(meanwhile, ploppy stayed on his 10 against the dealer 12)
lolol
Its - Possessive; It's - "It is" / "It has"; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They're - "They are"
October 6th, 2012 at 10:16:52 AM
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October 6th, 2012 at 10:28:48 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 6th, 2012 at 10:38:45 AM
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8 years in the business nothing surprises me anymore especially the way people play. I shake my head smile and walk away.
October 6th, 2012 at 10:46:31 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
October 6th, 2012 at 11:29:45 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesIt is people like this that if I ran a casino, I wouldn't care if counters played.
Exactly! I've said many times that they pay for the counters. Use them to your advantage. I wonged out of a shoe recently and the two frat boys at the table started mouthing off about the flow of the cards etc. I talked them into playing two hands each to finish the shoe. Ethical? Don't know don't care. If they had kept their mouths shut I wouldn't have said a word.
I heart ploppies!
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 12th, 2012 at 9:44:43 AM
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Quote: sodawaterI don't believe anyone could be so stupid as to stay on 10. Though I have seen people stand on soft 12-16 vs dealer 2-6 which is almost as bad.
2 weeks ago i was playing (to) hard on european BJ. I had 2 x €200 bets with 20 and 17 against 10.
The guy at tail splitted his tens and got ace on both (!) Dealer got 3 and 10.
A few hands earlier same guy doubled on soft 19 against 8 and got 2 for total 11. (Double on hard hand only)
December 12th, 2012 at 11:35:21 AM
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I don't play a lot of blackjack, but the worst I have seen was one guy occasionally doubling hands like hard 13 and 14. The dealer had to yell for floor approval every time too. So even the house was trying to hint to the "ploppy" that he is doing something wrong. But luck was on his side and he didn't lose terribly from the poor doubling; hell, he might have even won.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:03:35 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesFinally, the cardinal rule of Ploppyism is to yell at another player when they "take the dealer's bust card" - a nice Indian fellow was playing and he had a 10,2 versus a dealer 3.
Indian guy hit and busted and immediately Ploppy laid into him about taking the dealer's bust card (meanwhile, ploppy stayed on his 10 against the dealer 12) - the dealer busted anyway
Oh boy!!!
I don't care how anyone else plays there hand, and why
should I, it's their money ! But isn't it classic that some
DA who don't even know BS is going to say some DA thing
about 3rd base.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
December 12th, 2012 at 8:00:22 PM
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That's why I like playing 3rd base. I try and politely explain BS, but if the guys a real asshole, then I do my best to take the dealer's bust card and laugh at DA.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 12th, 2012 at 11:17:30 PM
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Quote: BuzzardThat's why I like playing 3rd base. I try and politely explain BS, but if the guys a real asshole, then I do my best to take the dealer's bust card and laugh at DA.
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December 13th, 2012 at 3:56:32 AM
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I try to refrain from play by play because frankly most people find it boring but I'll share this since it happened yesterday. With a $300 bet out I doubled my ten against the dealer's nine. The other player who had just sat down hit a hard 17 and drew a ten. We both lost to the dealers pat 19.
I didn't say anything but the dealer and a couple of spectators really lit into the guy. Hey, next time he'll help me right? Right? Anyone?
I didn't say anything but the dealer and a couple of spectators really lit into the guy. Hey, next time he'll help me right? Right? Anyone?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 13th, 2012 at 5:23:46 AM
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Quote: 1BBI try to refrain from play by play because frankly most people find it boring but I'll share this since it happened yesterday. With a $300 bet out I doubled my ten against the dealer's nine. The other player who had just sat down hit a hard 17 and drew a ten. We both lost to the dealers pat 19.
I didn't say anything but the dealer and a couple of spectators really lit into the guy. Hey, next time he'll help me right? Right? Anyone?
It's not clear, but I presume the guy had sat down to your right, thereby taking what would have been your 10 on your double down?
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
December 13th, 2012 at 5:55:52 AM
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Yes Raleigh, I usually play third base.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 13th, 2012 at 6:12:09 AM
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Love these threads. My friends all know I play BJ and count. Sometimes they want to go with me, and they are all ploppies. I help them when I can but a certain amount of the science of BJ seems to elude them. (which is weird because they are otherwise smart and successful people). Anyhooo...was playing with my long time buddy, he gets a 9 total against a dealer 6. WILL NOT HIT. Don't even get into doubling...he says "don't take the dealers bust card...blah blah blah"...So he freakin stands on 9. Of course the dealer busts anyway "proving him right"..sigh.
Seriously though, these players keep the casino in business for the rest of us. That and anyone who plays slots/roulette...etc.
Seriously though, these players keep the casino in business for the rest of us. That and anyone who plays slots/roulette...etc.
December 13th, 2012 at 6:54:12 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQI don't care how anyone else plays there hand, and why
should I, it's their money ! But isn't it classic that some
DA who don't even know BS is going to say some DA thing
about 3rd base.
DA?
December 13th, 2012 at 7:05:11 PM
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I'm guessing dumb ass
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
December 13th, 2012 at 7:24:08 PM
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That's the way I read DA.
December 13th, 2012 at 7:39:55 PM
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In this context, YEP, that's what I meant !
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
